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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 25/34] fs/resctrl: Add event configuration directory under info/L3_MON/
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 11:23:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2245bbd-1bf8-4fad-9c1c-9f0848c7da39@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ce4f15c-40aa-49fe-82f1-3a30d3e56f35@amd.com>

Hi Babu,

On 8/8/25 10:47 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> On 8/8/2025 10:12 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> On 8/8/25 6:56 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>> On 7/30/2025 3:04 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/25 11:29 AM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>>> diff --git a/fs/resctrl/monitor.c b/fs/resctrl/monitor.c
>>>>> index 16bcfeeb89e6..fa5f63126682 100644
>>>>> --- a/fs/resctrl/monitor.c
>>>>> +++ b/fs/resctrl/monitor.c
>>>>> @@ -929,6 +929,29 @@ struct mbm_transaction mbm_transactions[NUM_MBM_TRANSACTIONS] = {
>>>>>        {"dirty_victim_writes_all", DIRTY_VICTIMS_TO_ALL_MEM},
>>>>>    };
>>>>>    +int event_filter_show(struct kernfs_open_file *of, struct seq_file *seq, void *v)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +    struct mon_evt *mevt = rdt_kn_parent_priv(of->kn);
>>>>> +    bool sep = false;
>>>>> +    int i;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    mutex_lock(&rdtgroup_mutex);
>>>>> +
>>>> There is inconsistency among the files introduced on how
>>>> "mbm_event mode disabled" case is handled. Some files return failure
>>>> from their _show()/_write() when "mbm_event mode is disabled", some don't.
>>>>
>>>> The "event_filter" file always prints the MBM transactions monitored
>>>> when assignable counters are supported, whether mbm_event mode is enabled
>>>> or not. This means that the MBM event's configuration values are printed
>>>> when "default" mode is enabled.  I have two concerns about this
>>>> 1) This is potentially very confusing since switching to "default" will
>>>>      make the BMEC files visible that will enable the user to modify the
>>>>      event configurations per domain. Having this file print a global event
>>>>      configuration while there are potentially various different domain-specific
>>>>      configuration active will be confusing.
>>> Yes. I agree.
>> hmmm ... ok, you say that you agree but I cannot tell if you are going to
>> do anything about it.
>>
>> On a system with BMEC enabled the mbm_total_bytes_config and mbm_local_bytes_config
>> files should be the *only* source of MBM event configuration information, no?
> 
> That is correct.
> 
> 
>>
>> It may be ok to have event_filter print configuration when assignable counters are disabled
>> if BMEC is not supported but that would require that this information will always be
>> known for a "default" monitoring setup. While this may be true for AMD it is not obvious
>> to me that this is universally true. Once this file exists in this form resctrl will always
>> be required to provide data for the event configuration and it is not clear to me that
>> this can always be guaranteed.
> 
> Yea. It is not true universally true. I don't know what these values are for Intel and ARM.
> 
>>
>>>> 2) Can it be guaranteed that the MBM events will monitor the default
>>>>      assignable counter memory transactions when in "default" mode? It has
>>>>      never been possible to query which memory transactions are monitored by
>>>>      the default X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL features
>>>>      so this seems to use one feature to deduce capabilities or another?
>>> So, initialize both total and local event configuration to default values when switched to "default mode"?
>>>
>>> Something like this?
>>>
>>> mon_event_all[QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID].evt_cfg = r->mon.mbm_cfg_mask;
>>>
>>> mon_event_all[QOS_L3_MBM_LOCAL_EVENT_ID].evt_cfg = READS_TO_LOCAL_MEM | READS_TO_LOCAL_S_MEM | NON_TEMP_WRITE_TO_LOCAL_MEM;
>>>
>>> We are already doing that right (in patch 32)?
>> Yes, but it creates this strange dependency where the "default" monitoring mode
>> (that has been supported long before configurable events and assignable counters came
>> along) requires support of "assignable counter mode".
>>
>> Consider it from another view, if resctrl wants to make event configuration available
>> for the "default" mode then the "event_filter" file could always be visible when MBM
>> local/total is supported to give users insight into what is monitored, whether
>> assignable counters are supported or not. This is not possible on systems that do
>> not support ABMC though, right?
> 
> That is correct. With BMEC, each domain can have its own settings.  So, printing the default will not be accurate.
> 
> What options do we have here.
> 
> How about adding the check if (resctrl_arch_mbm_cntr_assign_enabled())?  Only print the values when ABMC is supported else print information in "last_cmd_status".
> 

Did you perhaps intend to write "Only print the values when ABMC is *enabled* else print
information in "last_cmd_status".? If this is what you actually meant then I agree. I think
doing so places clear boundary on this feature that gives us more options/flexibility for
future changes.

Reinette



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-08 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-25 18:29 [PATCH v16 00/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 01/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Consolidate monitor event descriptions Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-30 20:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 02/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Replace architecture event enabled checks Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 03/34] x86/resctrl: Remove 'rdt_mon_features' global variable Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 04/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Prepare for more monitor events Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 05/34] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 06/34] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 07/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 08/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-06 21:04     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 09/34] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 10/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitoring modes Babu Moger
2025-08-06 21:02   ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-06 21:30     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 11/34] fs/resctrl: Add resctrl file to display number of assignable counters Babu Moger
2025-08-06 21:12   ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-06 21:31     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 12/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters per domain Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 13/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free MBM counters Babu Moger
2025-08-06 21:19   ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-06 21:31     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-06 22:04       ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 14/34] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 15/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce event configuration field in struct mon_evt Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 16/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:50   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 17/34] fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to assign MBM events Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:52   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-07 18:29     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 18/34] fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassign " Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-07 18:33     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 19/34] fs/resctrl: Pass struct rdtgroup instead of individual members Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 20/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce counter ID read, reset calls in mbm_event mode Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:59   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-07 19:59     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 21/34] x86/resctrl: Refactor resctrl_arch_rmid_read() Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:59   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 22/34] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_reset_cntr() and resctrl_arch_cntr_read() Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:01   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08  2:05     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 23/34] fs/resctrl: Support counter read/reset with mbm_event assignment mode Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:03   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08  2:20     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 24/34] fs/resctrl: Add definitions for MBM event configuration Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:03   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08  2:24     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 25/34] fs/resctrl: Add event configuration directory under info/L3_MON/ Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:04   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 13:56     ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-08 15:12       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 17:47         ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-08 18:23           ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2025-08-08 18:48             ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-08 20:26               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 26/34] fs/resctrl: Provide interface to update the event configurations Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 18:27     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 27/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce mbm_assign_on_mkdir to enable assignments on mkdir Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:08   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 20:29     ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-08 21:00       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 21:10         ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 28/34] fs/resctrl: Auto assign counters on mkdir and clean up on group removal Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:08   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-11 23:39     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 29/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce mbm_L3_assignments to list assignments in a group Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:09   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-11 23:42     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 30/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce the interface to modify " Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:10   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-11 23:51     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 31/34] fs/resctrl: Disable BMEC event configuration when mbm_event mode is enabled Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:11   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:16     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 32/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:11   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:18     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 33/34] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_event mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:11   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:21     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 34/34] MAINTAINERS: resctrl: add myself as reviewer Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:14   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:23     ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-30 19:47 ` [PATCH v16 00/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Reinette Chatre
2025-07-30 23:31   ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-30 23:57     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-31 14:17       ` Moger, Babu

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