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From: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: ying.huang@intel.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	hughd@google.com, shakeelb@google.com,
	william.kucharski@oracle.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v2 PATCH] mm: vmscan: correct nr_reclaimed for THP
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:09:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3c26c7a-748c-6090-67f4-3014bedea2e6@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190513080929.GC24036@dhcp22.suse.cz>



On 5/13/19 1:09 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 11-05-19 00:23:40, Yang Shi wrote:
>> Since commit bd4c82c22c36 ("mm, THP, swap: delay splitting THP after
>> swapped out"), THP can be swapped out in a whole.  But, nr_reclaimed
>> still gets inc'ed by one even though a whole THP (512 pages) gets
>> swapped out.
>>
>> This doesn't make too much sense to memory reclaim.  For example, direct
>> reclaim may just need reclaim SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX pages, reclaiming one THP
>> could fulfill it.  But, if nr_reclaimed is not increased correctly,
>> direct reclaim may just waste time to reclaim more pages,
>> SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX * 512 pages in worst case.
> You are technically right here. This has been a known issue for a while.
> I am wondering whether somebody actually noticed some misbehavior.
> Swapping out is a rare event and you have to have a considerable number
> of THPs to notice.

The commit bd4c82c22c36 ("mm, THP, swap: delay splitting THP after 
swapped out") was added in 4.14, it might be not used widely yet. And we 
need swap + THPs to trigger it, furthermore the misbehavior might be 
accumulative over time. I don't expect it will have any obvious 
misbehavior for a single shot.

>
>> This change may result in more reclaimed pages than scanned pages showed
>> by /proc/vmstat since scanning one head page would reclaim 512 base pages.
> This is quite nasty and confusing. I am worried that having those two
> unsynced begs for subtle issues. Can we account THP as scanning 512 base
> pages as well?

Actually, such unsync has been there for a while. The 
isolate_lru_pages() returns nr_taken which has THP accounted as 512 base 
pages, but nr_scanned just shows 1. nr_taken is not showed via 
/proc/vmstat, but it is showed via trace point.

I think we can just account 512 base pages for nr_scanned for 
isolate_lru_pages() to make the counters sane since PGSCAN_KSWAPD/DIRECT 
just use it.

And, sc->nr_scanned should be accounted as 512 base pages too otherwise 
we may have nr_scanned < nr_to_reclaim all the time to result in 
false-negative for priority raise and something else wrong (e.g. wrong 
vmpressure).

>
>> Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
>> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
>> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
>> Cc: "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
>> Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
>> Reviewed-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
>> ---
>> v2: Added Shakeel's Reviewed-by
>>      Use hpage_nr_pages instead of compound_order per Huang Ying and William Kucharski
>>
>>   mm/vmscan.c | 6 +++++-
>>   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index fd9de50..4226d6b 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -1446,7 +1446,11 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
>>   
>>   		unlock_page(page);
>>   free_it:
>> -		nr_reclaimed++;
>> +		/*
>> +		 * THP may get swapped out in a whole, need account
>> +		 * all base pages.
>> +		 */
>> +		nr_reclaimed += hpage_nr_pages(page);
>>   
>>   		/*
>>   		 * Is there need to periodically free_page_list? It would
>> -- 
>> 1.8.3.1
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-13 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-10 16:23 [v2 PATCH] mm: vmscan: correct nr_reclaimed for THP Yang Shi
2019-05-13  8:09 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-13 21:09   ` Yang Shi [this message]
2019-05-13 21:45     ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-14  4:36       ` Yang Shi
2019-05-14  6:20         ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-14 20:44           ` Yang Shi
2019-05-16 15:10             ` Johannes Weiner
2019-05-20  9:43               ` Yang Shi
2019-05-21  3:16                 ` Yang Shi
2019-05-21  6:54               ` Yang Shi

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