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From: "Winkler, Tomas" <tomas.winkler@intel.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1] mei: Don't encourage to use kernel internal types in user code
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:05:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c42fc7597d7c4d0a9867c41a94b0844b@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200302155818.GG1224808@smile.fi.intel.com>

> 
> +Cc: Christoph.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 04:28:11PM +0000, Winkler, Tomas wrote:
> > > uuid_le is internal kernel type which shall not be exposed to the
> > > user in the first place.
> > Why, these types are exported via include/uapi/linux/uuid.h
> 
> Which is wrong from the day 1.
I'm not sure why, this is API between kernel and the user space. 

> The uuid_t type is being provided by libuuid in the user space, there is no
> (more) kernel exported equivalent. Same should be done to the uuid_le.

There are many uuid libraries, which  is the one that provides the uuid type
between kernel and the user space? 

> 
> We already discussed this couple of years ago.
I do not recall be part of this conversation, please share the link. 

> 
> > In order to mitigate the (wrong) distribution of the use of that type,
> > > switch MEI AMT sample to plain unsigned char array.
> >
> > There was a change to guid_t from uuild_le, anyhow there is much more
> > code  except this sample that uses those types.
> 
> I guess you misunderstood the point. The types are for kernel use and keeping
> them exported in a condition like it's now (quoter baked due to drop of uuid_be
> part completely and uuid_le partially) is wrong.
Is wrong how... ?  What is broken in the concept ? Please give me an example of what is going to wrong, here. 
Just saying that something is wrong is not convincing. 

> There is *no* ABI change. And basically libuuid or another one should provide
> type and infrastructure for this.
But API is already out there, do you plan to remove it? 
  
> > Nack so far.
> 
> If you would like to bear the legacy type, why not to move this UUID UAPI parts
> directly to MEI?
I can but do you know all the software that includes <linux/uuid.h> ?
Thanks
Tomas



      reply	other threads:[~2020-03-02 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-28 15:13 [PATCH v1] mei: Don't encourage to use kernel internal types in user code Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-29 16:28 ` Winkler, Tomas
2020-03-02 15:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-03-02 18:05     ` Winkler, Tomas [this message]

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