From: Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@meta.com>,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, hch@lst.de, sagi@grimberg.me,
paulmck@kernel.org, davidgow@google.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, venkat88@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] list: introduce a new cutting helper
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 19:11:52 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c475f0d8-3bc9-4d65-8fce-586f4b75b4fc@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZmrscxG51gFRDVlM@kbusch-mbp>
On 6/13/24 18:26, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:26:11AM +0530, Nilay Shroff wrote:
>> On 6/12/24 21:21, Keith Busch wrote:
>>> +static inline void list_cut(struct list_head *list,
>>> + struct list_head *head, struct list_head *entry)
>>> +{
>>> + list->next = entry;
>>> + list->prev = head->prev;
>>> + head->prev = entry->prev;
>>> + entry->prev->next = head;
>>> + entry->prev = list;
>>> + list->prev->next = list;
>>> +}
>> I am wondering whether we really need the _rcu version of list_cut here?
>> I think that @head could point to an _rcu protected list and that's true
>> for this patch. So there might be concurrent readers accessing @head using
>> _rcu list-traversal primitives, such as list_for_each_entry_rcu().
>>
>> An _rcu version of list_cut():
>>
>> static inline void list_cut_rcu(struct list_head *list,
>> struct list_head *head, struct list_head *entry)
>> {
>> list->next = entry;
>> list->prev = head->prev;
>> head->prev = entry->prev;
>> rcu_assign_pointer(list_next_rcu(entry->prev), head);
>> entry->prev = list;
>> list->prev->next = list;
>> }
>
> I was initially thinking similiar, but this is really just doing a
> "list_del", and the rcu version calls the same generic __list_del()
> helper. To make this more clear, we could change
>
> head->prev = entry->prev;
> entry->prev->next = head;
>
> To just this:
>
> __list_del(entry->prev, head);
>
> And that also gets the "WRITE_ONCE" usage right.
Yeah this sounds reasonable.
>
> But that's not the problem for the rcu case. It's the last line that's
> the problem:
>
> list->prev->next = list;
>
> We can't change forward pointers for any element being detached from
> @head because a reader iterating the list may see that new pointer value
> and end up in the wrong list, breaking iteration. A synchronize rcu
> needs to happen before forward pointers can be mucked with, so it still
> needs to be done in two steps. Oh bother...
Agree and probably we may break it down using this API:
static inline void list_cut_rcu(struct list_head *list,
struct list_head *head, struct list_head *entry,
void (*sync)(void))
{
list->next = entry;
list->prev = head->prev;
__list_del(entry->prev, head);
sync();
entry->prev = list;
list->prev->next = list;
}
Thanks,
--Nilay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-13 13:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-12 15:51 [PATCH 1/2] list: introduce a new cutting helper Keith Busch
2024-06-12 15:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] nvme: fix namespace removal list Keith Busch
2024-06-12 17:20 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-06-12 17:24 ` Keith Busch
2024-06-12 17:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] list: introduce a new cutting helper Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-06-13 4:56 ` Nilay Shroff
2024-06-13 8:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-13 13:00 ` Keith Busch
2024-06-13 12:56 ` Keith Busch
2024-06-13 13:41 ` Nilay Shroff [this message]
2024-06-13 14:36 ` Keith Busch
2024-06-13 14:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 14:47 ` Keith Busch
2024-06-13 15:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 15:40 ` Keith Busch
2024-06-13 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 16:10 ` Keith Busch
2024-06-13 17:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=c475f0d8-3bc9-4d65-8fce-586f4b75b4fc@linux.ibm.com \
--to=nilay@linux.ibm.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=davidgow@google.com \
--cc=hch@lst.de \
--cc=kbusch@kernel.org \
--cc=kbusch@meta.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
--cc=sagi@grimberg.me \
--cc=venkat88@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox