From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: floam@sh.nu, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
arjan@infradead.org, Paul Jackson <pj@engr.sgi.com>,
gilbertd@treblig.org, vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl, bunk@stusta.de
Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:56:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4ce304162b3d2a3ad78dc9e0bc455f5@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112055671.3691.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Mar 28, 2005, at 19:21, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> So you are saying that a stand alone section of code, that needs
> wrappers to work with Linux is a derived work of Linux? If there's
> some functionality, that you make, and it just happens to need
> some kind of operating system to work. Does that make it a derived
> work of any operating system?
It depends on how special and different the wrappers for Linux are
from the wrappers for other operating systems. Like, for example,
the sysfs stuff is so radically different from the APIs that other
operating systems provide that anything using it is most likely
copied from other in-kernel sysfs code, and is therefore derived
from the Linux kernel.
> OK, I took your advise and found this from googling:
>
> http://www.pbwt.com/Attorney/files/ravicher_1.pdf
Mmm, good reference, thanks!
> Unless you misunderstood me, and thought that I was talking
> about taking some part of Linux and making it work under another
> OS, I still stand by my statement.
I think it really depends on the APIs implemented. Anything based
on the sysfs code, even if only using the APIs, will probably be
found to be a derivative work (NOTE: IANAL) because the sysfs API
is so very different from everything else. Other interfaces like
PCI management, memory management, etc, may not be so protectable,
because they are standard across many systems. If Linux got a
new and unique memory hotplug API, however, that might be a very
different story. Similar things could be said about integration
between drivers and the new Unified Driver Model, which appears to
be quite original.
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++: a18 C++++>$ UB/L/X/*++++(+)>$ P+++(++++)>$
L++++(+++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w--- O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+
PGP+++ t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b++++(++) DI+ D+ G e->++++$ h!*()>++$ r
!y?(-)
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-29 0:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-27 1:15 Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!! Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 1:29 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 2:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 8:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 17:09 ` Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-27 17:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 17:52 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-27 17:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 18:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-03-27 18:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 18:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 19:16 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 19:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-28 1:54 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-28 9:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 12:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 13:12 ` linux-os
2005-03-28 13:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 14:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <1112016850.6003.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-28 13:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 23:43 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 0:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 0:56 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2005-03-29 1:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 12:15 ` linux-os
2005-03-29 12:29 ` Sean
2005-03-30 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-30 19:57 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 11:35 ` Sean
2005-03-31 12:34 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 14:20 ` Sean
2005-03-31 22:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-30 23:30 ` John Pearson
2005-04-03 14:07 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 16:31 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-30 14:38 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-03-30 19:49 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 1:22 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 1:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 20:47 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-27 19:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 21:22 ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-27 23:09 ` Greg KH
2005-03-28 13:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-27 18:12 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 1:04 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 3:33 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 4:03 ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-29 4:44 ` Greg KH
2005-04-03 23:41 ` Mark Lord
2005-04-04 4:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-04 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-29 4:28 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 4:45 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:01 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:05 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:29 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:37 ` Brian Gerst
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-28 2:04 Aaron Gyes
2005-03-28 1:03 Albert Cahalan
2005-03-27 7:21 Manfred Spraul
2005-03-27 5:20 Chuck Ebbert
2005-03-26 17:52 Mark Fortescue
2005-03-26 18:28 ` Greg KH
2005-03-26 20:34 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-26 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 0:48 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <1111885480.1312.9.camel@mindpipe>
2005-03-27 3:20 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 3:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 18:10 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 18:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-27 22:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 23:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 1:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-28 1:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 9:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 14:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 22:41 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-28 0:53 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-27 15:04 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 3:56 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 2:37 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-03-29 5:58 ` Jim Crilly
2005-03-28 16:52 ` Mark Fortescue
2005-03-28 18:38 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 3:36 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 6:17 ` Kevin Puetz
2005-03-27 12:42 ` Sean
2005-03-27 13:53 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-03-27 15:06 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 13:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-29 3:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29 1:53 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-29 2:06 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 19:00 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-30 14:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-02 2:11 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-27 20:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=c4ce304162b3d2a3ad78dc9e0bc455f5@mac.com \
--to=mrmacman_g4@mac.com \
--cc=arjan@infradead.org \
--cc=bunk@stusta.de \
--cc=floam@sh.nu \
--cc=gilbertd@treblig.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pj@engr.sgi.com \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox