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From: Matthew Majewski <mattwmajewski@gmail.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski	 <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil	 <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <linux@treblig.org>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Uwe Kleine-Konig <u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com>,
	Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzejtp2010@gmail.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
		linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] media: dt-bindings: Add dt bindings for m2m-deinterlace device
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 10:21:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c7141c6554b396d3ddaf7e0e540b80e5990b416b.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d729159-4d13-4a61-88c7-3be992b23728@kernel.org>

On Mon, 2025-03-03 at 08:31 +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 26/02/2025 23:41, Matthew Majewski wrote:
> > 
> > As I wrote, supported devices/hardware is anything that provides a
> > MEM_TO_MEM capable dma-controller with interleaved transfer
> > support. I
> > did not list specific devices because the bindings are supposed to
> > be
> > generic, as they are not describing actual silicon. But if you want
> > me
> 
> I already told you that no. Bindings are not supposed to be generic.
> 
> From where did you get such information?

There are generic bindings in the kernel and I based my bindings off of
them. spi-gpio.yaml, i2c-gpio.yaml, video-mux.yaml, etc are all generic
bindings, no?

> 
> > to list some devices which provide a compatible dma-controller,
> > here
> > are devices I found in the current mainline kernel:
> > 
> > - TI OMAP Soc Family
> > - TI Davinci Soc Family
> > - TI Keystone Processor Family
> > - IMX27 Processor and variants
> > - Several Microchip Processors (sama5, sam9x7, sam9x60)
> 
> That's too generic - you just listed SoCs, which consist of dozen or
> hundred of devices. Which hardware piece is here?
> 
> Maybe this is not for a real device, but then this should be marked
> clearly.
> 

I listed devices that have a compatible dma-controller, so the list is
a bit big, sorry. I also specifically mentioned the BeagleBone black
board which I have been testing on. 

"m2m-deinterlace" used to be a part of the mach-imx27_visstrim_m10.c
board file, but was removed with commit 879c0e5e0ac711 (ARM: imx:
Remove i.MX27 board files). So at least the Vistrim M10 device was
explicitly using the m2m-deinterlace device. 

When the move away from board files was made towards device-tree, m2m-
deinterlace support was never ported over to device-tree. This is what
I am doing now. 

And yes, m2m-deinterlace is not a "real device" if by "real device" you
mean an actual piece of silicon on a specific piece of hardware. I
think there is just some semantic confusion here. I will no longer
refer to it as a "device" then, please let me know what the more
appropriate term is and I will modify the description accordingly.

> > 
> > I think an appropriate analogy for m2m-deinterlace would be spi-
> > gpio.
> > Since spi-gpio leverages gpio for bitbanging the spi protocol, the
> > bindings do not need to describe any clocks, spi-controller
> > registers,
> 
> Sure, SPI GPIO is Linux driver, not a device and I am asking about it
> all the time.
> 

My point was that spi-gpio has dt-bindings even though these bindings
do not describe a specific hardware device, hence it is "generic". 

Best,
Matthew



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-14 23:17 [PATCH v2 0/2] media: m2m-deinterlace: add device-tree support Matthew Majewski
2025-02-14 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] media: dt-bindings: Add dt bindings for m2m-deinterlace device Matthew Majewski
2025-02-18  8:30   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-26 22:41     ` Matthew Majewski
2025-03-03  7:31       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-03  7:34         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-03 15:21         ` Matthew Majewski [this message]
2025-03-04  7:26           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-14 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] media: m2m-deinterlace: add device-tree support Matthew Majewski

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