From: Hamza Mahfooz <hamza.mahfooz@amd.com>
To: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Rodrigo Siqueira <rodrigo.siqueira@amd.com>,
Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>,
Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>,
kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, llvm@lists.linux.dev,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib: Kconfig: disable dynamic sanitizers for test builds
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:42:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c7a80dc5-d18f-4a7d-915b-1803cc3e33ca@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANpmjNPZ0Eii3ZTrVqEL2Ez0Jv23y-emLBCLSZ==xmH--4E65g@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/18/23 12:22, Marco Elver wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 17:32, 'Hamza Mahfooz' via kasan-dev
> <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> kasan, kcsan and kmsan all have the tendency to blow up the stack
>> and there isn't a lot of value in having them enabled for test builds,
>> since they are intended to be useful for runtime debugging. So, disable
>> them for test builds.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Hamza Mahfooz <hamza.mahfooz@amd.com>
>> ---
>> lib/Kconfig.kasan | 1 +
>> lib/Kconfig.kcsan | 1 +
>> lib/Kconfig.kmsan | 1 +
>> 3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
>
> Do you have links to discussions that motivate this change? This has
> been discussed in the past. One recommendation is to adjust the
Sure, you can checkout:
https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/CADnq5_OyO9CHqahFvdnx7-8s9654udgdfhUntyxfjae+iHey0Q@mail.gmail.com/T/#m5d227dc1ef07b1f4953312287dce4568666c5e09
> build/test scripts to exclude some combination of configs if they are
> causing issues. Or we increase CONFIG_FRAME_WARN if one of them is
> enabled (KMSAN sets it to 0, 32-bit KASAN increases it a bit).
>
> That being said, we're aware of KASAN having had more issues and there
> are some suboptions that have been disabled because of that (like
> KASAN_STACK). I'm not sure if Clang's KASAN instrumentation has had
> some recent improvements (we did investigate it, but I can't recall
> what the outcome was [1]) - maybe try a more recent compiler? However,
> KCSAN and KMSAN shouldn't have any issues (if KMSAN is enabled,
This patch was initially motivated by KCSAN (i.e. I am able to get it to
blow up the stack with a minimal .config). I don't mind dropping the
other ones since I only included them because Nathan implied that they
could cause similar issues.
> FRAME_WARN is 0). And having build tests with them enabled isn't
> useless at all: we're making sure that these tools (even though only
> for debugging), still work. We _want_ them to work during random build
> testing!
>
> Please share the concrete problem you're having, because this change
> will make things worse for everyone in the long run.
>
> [1] https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues/38157
>
>> diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.kasan b/lib/Kconfig.kasan
>> index fdca89c05745..fbd85c4872c0 100644
>> --- a/lib/Kconfig.kasan
>> +++ b/lib/Kconfig.kasan
>> @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ menuconfig KASAN
>> CC_HAS_WORKING_NOSANITIZE_ADDRESS) || \
>> HAVE_ARCH_KASAN_HW_TAGS
>> depends on (SLUB && SYSFS && !SLUB_TINY) || (SLAB && !DEBUG_SLAB)
>> + depends on !COMPILE_TEST
>> select STACKDEPOT_ALWAYS_INIT
>> help
>> Enables KASAN (Kernel Address Sanitizer) - a dynamic memory safety
>
> This also disables KASAN_HW_TAGS, which is actually enabled in
> production kernels and does not use any compiler instrumentation.
>
>> diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.kcsan b/lib/Kconfig.kcsan
>> index 609ddfc73de5..7bcefdbfb46f 100644
>> --- a/lib/Kconfig.kcsan
>> +++ b/lib/Kconfig.kcsan
>> @@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ menuconfig KCSAN
>> bool "KCSAN: dynamic data race detector"
>> depends on HAVE_ARCH_KCSAN && HAVE_KCSAN_COMPILER
>> depends on DEBUG_KERNEL && !KASAN
>> + depends on !COMPILE_TEST
>> select CONSTRUCTORS
>> select STACKTRACE
>> help
>> diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.kmsan b/lib/Kconfig.kmsan
>> index ef2c8f256c57..eb05c885d3fd 100644
>> --- a/lib/Kconfig.kmsan
>> +++ b/lib/Kconfig.kmsan
>> @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@ config KMSAN
>> depends on HAVE_ARCH_KMSAN && HAVE_KMSAN_COMPILER
>> depends on SLUB && DEBUG_KERNEL && !KASAN && !KCSAN
>> depends on !PREEMPT_RT
>> + depends on !COMPILE_TEST
>
> KMSAN already selects FRAME_WARN of 0 and should not cause you any
> issues during build testing.
>
> Nack.
--
Hamza
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-18 16:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-18 15:31 [PATCH] lib: Kconfig: disable dynamic sanitizers for test builds Hamza Mahfooz
2023-10-18 16:22 ` Marco Elver
2023-10-18 16:38 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-10-18 16:42 ` Hamza Mahfooz [this message]
2023-10-18 16:51 ` Marco Elver
2023-10-18 16:55 ` Nathan Chancellor
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