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From: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com>,
	Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
Cc: Abel Vesa <abelvesa@kernel.org>, Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>, Ying Liu <victor.liu@nxp.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@linaro.org>,
	Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Ian Ray <ian.ray@ge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] clk: Add flag to prevent frequency changes when walking subtrees
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:22:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c80a9fcd3fbe99c77c2cef1c241e8610.sboyd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjx2tf3y.fsf@bootlin.com>

Quoting Miquel Raynal (2024-12-23 10:43:13)
> Hi Maxime,
> 
> On 17/12/2024 at 13:47:53 +01, Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 06:41:14PM +0100, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> >> There are mainly two ways to change a clock frequency.
> >
> > There's much more than that :)
> 
> "mainly"
> 
> Or maybe I should have added "on purpose".
> 
> >
> > Off the top of my head, setting/clearing a min/max rate and changing the
> > parent might also result in a rate change.
> >
> > And then, the firmware might get involved too.
> >
> >> The active way requires calling ->set_rate() in order to ask "on
> >> purpose" for a frequency change. Otherwise, a clock can passively see
> >> its frequency being updated depending on upstream clock frequency
> >> changes. In most cases it is fine to just accept the new upstream
> >> frequency - which by definition will have an impact on downstream
> >> frequencies if we do not recalculate internal divisors. But there are
> >> cases where, upon an upstream frequency change, we would like to
> >> maintain a specific rate.
> >
> > Why is clk_set_rate_exclusive not enough?
> 
> I am trying to protect these rate changes from subtree walks, I don't
> see where setting an exclusive rate would have an effect? But I might be
> overlooking something, definitely.
> 
> ...
> 
> >> @@ -2272,7 +2271,13 @@ static void clk_calc_subtree(struct clk_core *core)
> >>  {
> >>      struct clk_core *child;
> >>  
> >> -    core->new_rate = clk_recalc(core, core->parent->new_rate);
> >> +    if (core->flags & CLK_NO_RATE_CHANGE_DURING_PROPAGATION) {
> >> +            core->new_rate = clk_determine(core, core->rate);
> >> +            if (!core->new_rate)
> >> +                    core->new_rate = clk_recalc(core, core->parent->new_rate);
> >> +    } else {
> >> +            core->new_rate = clk_recalc(core, core->parent->new_rate);
> >> +    }
> >
> > Sorry, it's not clear to me how it works. How will the parent clocks
> > will get notified to adjust their dividers in that scenario? Also, what
> > if they can't?
> 
> The idea is: if the flag is set, instead of accepting the new upstream
> rate and recalculate the downstream rate based on a previously set
> divider value, we change our divider value to match the same frequency
> as before. But if we cannot, then we just keep the old way.
> 

The exclusive rate code could support this if it doesn't already do so.
If you call clk_set_rate_exclusive(child, <constant rate>) followed by
clk_set_rate(parent, <new rate>) the core code should try to keep the
child at the constant rate, or fail the clk_set_rate() call on the
parent. It should be possible to confirm this with some KUnit tests for
clk_set_rate_exclusive(). Similarly, if another child, child_B, of the
parent changes the parent rate, we should speculate the new rate of the
child_A that's protected and fail if we can't maintain the rate. We need
to start generating a list of clks that we operate a rate change on to
support this though, because right now we rely on the stack to track the
clks that we change the rate of.

Initially we thought that we could do this with clk notifiers. That may
work here, but I suspect it will be clunky to get working because clk
notifiers operate on struct clk.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-31  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-21 17:41 [PATCH 0/5] clk: Fix simple video pipelines on i.MX8 Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] clk: imx: clk-imx8mp: Allow LDB serializer clock reconfigure parent rate Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] clk: Add a helper to determine a clock rate Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] clk: Split clk_calc_subtree() Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] clk: Add flag to prevent frequency changes when walking subtrees Miquel Raynal
2024-12-10 22:44   ` Stephen Boyd
2024-12-23 18:38     ` Miquel Raynal
2024-12-31  1:09       ` Stephen Boyd
2024-12-17 12:47   ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-23 18:43     ` Miquel Raynal
2024-12-31  1:22       ` Stephen Boyd [this message]
2025-01-06 14:36         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-10 15:40           ` Miquel Raynal
2025-01-10 15:38         ` Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] clk: imx: imx8mp: Prevent media clocks to be incompatibly changed Miquel Raynal
2024-11-22  6:01 ` [PATCH 0/5] clk: Fix simple video pipelines on i.MX8 Liu Ying
2024-11-22  9:54   ` Miquel Raynal
2024-11-26  6:49     ` Liu Ying
2024-11-26 11:03       ` Miquel Raynal
2024-11-27  7:24         ` Liu Ying
2024-12-17 12:54     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-23 18:59       ` Miquel Raynal
2025-01-06 14:45         ` Maxime Ripard

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