From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>
Cc: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Joshua Washington <joshwash@google.com>,
Harshitha Ramamurthy <hramamurthy@google.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
ziweixiao@google.com, Vedant Mathur <vedantmathur@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v1 2/2] gve: use max allowed ring size for ZC page_pools
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 12:36:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca3899b0-f9b7-4b38-a6fd-a964a1746873@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <k3h635mirxo3wichhpxosw4hxvfu67khqs2jyna3muhhj5pmvm@4t2gypnckuri>
On 11/7/25 13:35, Dragos Tatulea wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2025 at 05:18:33PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 17:25:43 +0000 Dragos Tatulea wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2025 at 06:56:46PM -0800, Mina Almasry wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 6:22 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>> Increasing cache sizes to the max seems very hacky at best.
>>>>> The underlying implementation uses genpool and doesn't even
>>>>> bother to do batching.
>>>>
>>>> OK, my bad. I tried to think through downsides of arbitrarily
>>>> increasing the ring size in a ZC scenario where the underlying memory
>>>> is pre-pinned and allocated anyway, and I couldn't think of any, but I
>>>> won't argue the point any further.
>>>>
>>> I see a similar issue with io_uring as well: for a 9K MTU with 4K ring
>>> size there are ~1% allocation errors during a simple zcrx test.
>>>
>>> mlx5 calculates 16K pages and the io_uring zcrx buffer matches exactly
>>> that size (16K * 4K). Increasing the buffer doesn't help because the
>>> pool size is still what the driver asked for (+ also the
>>> internal pool limit). Even worse: eventually ENOSPC is returned to the
>>> application. But maybe this error has a different fix.
>>
>> Hm, yes, did you trace it all the way to where it comes from?
>> page pool itself does not have any ENOSPC AFAICT. If the cache
>> is full we free the page back to the provider via .release_netmem
>>
> Yes I did. It happens in io_cqe_cache_refill() when there are no more
> CQEs:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.17.7/source/io_uring/io_uring.c#L775
-ENOSPC here means io_uring's CQ got full. It's non-fatal, the user
is expected to process completions and reissue the request. And it's
best to avoid that for performance reasons, e.g. by making the CQ
bigger as you already noted.
--
Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-10 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-05 20:07 [PATCH net v1 1/2] page_pool: expose max page pool ring size Mina Almasry
2025-11-05 20:07 ` [PATCH net v1 2/2] gve: use max allowed ring size for ZC page_pools Mina Almasry
2025-11-05 21:58 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-11-05 22:44 ` Mina Almasry
2025-11-05 22:15 ` Harshitha Ramamurthy
2025-11-05 22:46 ` Mina Almasry
2025-11-06 1:11 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-06 1:56 ` Mina Almasry
2025-11-06 2:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-06 2:56 ` Mina Almasry
2025-11-06 17:25 ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-11-07 1:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-07 13:35 ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-11-08 2:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-10 12:36 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-11-10 12:48 ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-11-05 21:56 ` [PATCH net v1 1/2] page_pool: expose max page pool ring size Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-11-05 22:56 ` Mina Almasry
2025-11-06 13:12 ` Ilias Apalodimas
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