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From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Jianyong Wu <wujianyong@hygon.cn>
Cc: <peterz@infradead.org>, <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: dynamically scale the period of cache work
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 16:38:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca779e90-0921-4fb0-ab0c-3702e1a43ebb@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260413072309.2663668-1-wujianyong@hygon.cn>

Hi Jianyong,

On 4/13/2026 3:23 PM, Jianyong Wu wrote:
> When a preferred LLC is selected and remains stable, task_cache_work does
> not need to run frequently. Because it scans all system CPUs for
> computation, high-frequency execution hurts performance. We thus reduce
> the scan rate in such cases.
> 
> On the other hand, if the preferred node becomes suboptimal, we should
> increase the scan frequency to quickly find a better placement. The scan
> period is therefore dynamically adjusted.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jianyong Wu <wujianyong@hygon.cn>
> 
> ---
> Hi ChenYu, Tim, Gengkun,
> 
> I have another approach to address this issue, based on the observation
> that the scan work can be canceled if the preferred node is stable.This
> patch merely demonstrates the idea, but still needs more testing to
> verify its functionality. I'm sending it out early to gather feedback and
> opinions.
> 

Thanks for providing this patch.

>   	if (work->next == work) {
> @@ -1728,7 +1734,7 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
>   	struct task_struct *p = current, *cur;
>   	unsigned long curr_m_a_occ = 0;
>   	struct mm_struct *mm = p->mm;
> -	unsigned long m_a_occ = 0;
> +	unsigned long m_a_occ = 0, need_scan = 0, now;
>   	cpumask_var_t cpus;
>   	u64 t0, scan_cost;
>   
> @@ -1753,6 +1759,12 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
>   
>   	t0 = sched_clock_cpu(curr_cpu);
>   
> +	now = jiffies;
> +	if (time_before(now, READ_ONCE(mm->sc_stat.next_scan)))
> +		return;
> +

I agree that limiting the scan rate would be useful,
and your above change is actually similar to what NUMA balancing
did in task_numa_work(). It allows only one thread within the
same process to perform the statistics calculation, which avoids
redundant computation.

> +	WRITE_ONCE(mm->sc_stat.next_scan, (now + mm->sc_stat.scan_period));
> +

I suppose the above should be try_cmpxchg()?

That is to say, with your above change, we have already limited the scan
ratio for multi-threaded processes significantly. There appears to be no
need to perform adaptive adjustment of scan_period - the benefit of 
introducing
an adaptive scan_period may not offset the overhead of frequent writing 
to the
"global" mm->sc_stat.scan_period due to c2c?

thanks,
Chenyu




  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-13  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-01 21:52 [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 01/22] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:21     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-09 23:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10  6:30         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 02/22] sched/cache: Limit the scan number of CPUs when calculating task occupancy Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:17   ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-09 13:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10 10:12       ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-10  7:29     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-10 10:20       ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-10 17:12       ` Tim Chen
2026-04-10 17:27         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-13  7:23           ` [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: dynamically scale the period of cache work Jianyong Wu
2026-04-13  8:38             ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 03/22] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 04/22] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 05/22] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 06/22] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 07/22] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 08/22] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 09/22] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 10/22] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 11/22] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 12/22] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 13/22] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 14/22] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 15/22] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 16/22] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:27     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 17/22] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 12:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10  8:59     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-10  9:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 18/22] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:39     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 19/22] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 20/22] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 21/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 22/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:54 ` [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 20:02   ` Tim Chen

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