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From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	tony.luck@intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Alyssa Milburn <alyssa.milburn@linux.intel.com>,
	Daniel Sneddon <daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com>,
	antonio.gomez.iglesias@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] KVM: VMX: Move VERW closer to VMentry for MDS mitigation
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 19:14:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb8d8ae8-edf6-42a2-8cdc-3bd7b7e0711e@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231025-delay-verw-v3-6-52663677ee35@linux.intel.com>



On 25.10.23 г. 23:53 ч., Pawan Gupta wrote:
> During VMentry VERW is executed to mitigate MDS. After VERW, any memory
> access like register push onto stack may put host data in MDS affected
> CPU buffers. A guest can then use MDS to sample host data.
> 
> Although likelihood of secrets surviving in registers at current VERW
> callsite is less, but it can't be ruled out. Harden the MDS mitigation
> by moving the VERW mitigation late in VMentry path.
> 
> Note that VERW for MMIO Stale Data mitigation is unchanged because of
> the complexity of per-guest conditional VERW which is not easy to handle
> that late in asm with no GPRs available. If the CPU is also affected by
> MDS, VERW is unconditionally executed late in asm regardless of guest
> having MMIO access.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> ---
>   arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S |  3 +++
>   arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c     | 10 +++++++---
>   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S
> index b3b13ec04bac..139960deb736 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S
> @@ -161,6 +161,9 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(__vmx_vcpu_run)
>   	/* Load guest RAX.  This kills the @regs pointer! */
>   	mov VCPU_RAX(%_ASM_AX), %_ASM_AX
>   
> +	/* Clobbers EFLAGS.ZF */
> +	CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> +
>   	/* Check EFLAGS.CF from the VMX_RUN_VMRESUME bit test above. */
>   	jnc .Lvmlaunch
>   
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> index 24e8694b83fc..2d149589cf5b 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> @@ -7226,13 +7226,17 @@ static noinstr void vmx_vcpu_enter_exit(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
>   
>   	guest_state_enter_irqoff();
>   
> -	/* L1D Flush includes CPU buffer clear to mitigate MDS */
> +	/*
> +	 * L1D Flush includes CPU buffer clear to mitigate MDS, but VERW
> +	 * mitigation for MDS is done late in VMentry and is still
> +	 * executed inspite of L1D Flush. This is because an extra VERW
> +	 * should not matter much after the big hammer L1D Flush.
> +	 */
>   	if (static_branch_unlikely(&vmx_l1d_should_flush))
>   		vmx_l1d_flush(vcpu);
> -	else if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF))
> -		mds_clear_cpu_buffers();
>   	else if (static_branch_unlikely(&mmio_stale_data_clear) &&
>   		 kvm_arch_has_assigned_device(vcpu->kvm))
> +		/* MMIO mitigation is mutually exclusive with MDS mitigation later in asm */

Mutually exclusive implies that you have one or the other but not both, 
whilst I think the right formulation here is redundant? Because if mmio 
is enabled  mds_clear_cpu_buffers() will clear the buffers here  and 
later they'll be cleared again, no ? Alternatively you might augment 
this check to only execute iff X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF is not set?

>   		mds_clear_cpu_buffers();
>   
>   	vmx_disable_fb_clear(vmx);
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-26 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 20:52 [PATCH v3 0/6] Delay VERW Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25 20:52 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] x86/bugs: Add asm helpers for executing VERW Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25 21:10   ` Andrew Cooper
2023-10-25 21:28     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-25 21:30       ` Andrew Cooper
2023-10-25 21:49         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-25 22:07     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25 22:13       ` Andrew Cooper
2023-10-26 13:44   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-10-26 13:58     ` Andrew Cooper
2023-10-25 20:52 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/entry_64: Add VERW just before userspace transition Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 16:25   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-10-26 19:29     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 19:40       ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-26 21:15         ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 22:13           ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 22:17             ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-25 20:53 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] x86/entry_32: " Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25 20:53 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] x86/bugs: Use ALTERNATIVE() instead of mds_user_clear static key Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25 20:53 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] KVM: VMX: Use BT+JNC, i.e. EFLAGS.CF to select VMRESUME vs. VMLAUNCH Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25 20:53 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] KVM: VMX: Move VERW closer to VMentry for MDS mitigation Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 16:14   ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2023-10-26 19:07     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 19:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-26 20:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-26 21:27       ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 20:48     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-26 21:22       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-26 22:03         ` Pawan Gupta

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