From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Chaitanya Kulkarni <Chaitanya.Kulkarni@wdc.com>
Cc: "Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"target-devel@vger.kernel.org" <target-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] target/file: don't zero iter before iov_iter_bvec
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:31:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cc2d2b43-a8c6-bc09-5a62-22465f4554ee@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR04MB4965683837A93C9D863AAFAF86AB0@BYAPR04MB4965.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
On 11/01/2021 05:23, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
> On 1/10/21 18:32, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 11/01/2021 02:06, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
>>> On 1/9/21 13:29, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> On 09/01/2021 20:52, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
>>>>> On 1/9/21 12:40, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>> I expect you won't find any, but such little things can pile up
>>>>>> into a not-easy-to-spot overhead over time.
>>>>> That is what I suspected with the resulting assembly. The commit log
>>>>> needs to document that there is no direct impact on the performance
>>>> It's obvious that 3-4 extra mov $0 off(%reg) won't change performance
>>>> but still hasn't been formally confirmed ...
>>> This is obvious for you and me since we spent time into looking into
>>> resulting assembly not every reviewer is expected to do that see [1].
>>>>> which can be seen with this patch, but this is nice to have
>>>> ... so if you don't mind, I won't be resending just for that.
>>> As per commit log guidelines [1] you have to quantify the optimization.
>>>
>>> Since you cannot quantify the optimization modify the commit log explaining
>> And then you see "Optimizations usually aren’t free but trade-offs
>> between", and the patch doesn't fall under it.
> First part applies to all the optimizations with and without tradeoffs
> "Quantify optimizations and trade-offs."
> The later part doesn't mean optimizations without trade-offs should be
> allowed without having any supportive data.
>>
>> Let me be frank, I see it more like as a whim. If the maintainer agrees
>> with that strange requirement of yours and want to bury it under
>> bureaucracy, fine by me, don't take it, I don't care, but I haven't
>> ever been asked here to do that for patches as this.
> I didn't write the commit log guidelines, as a reviewer I'm following them.
> The patch commit log claims optimization with neither having any data nor
> having the supporting fact ("possibly no observable difference but in the
> long term it matters") for the completeness.
>> It's not "I cannot" but rather "I haven't even tried to and expect...".
>> Don't mix, there is a huge difference between.
> Then provide the numbers to support your claim.
What claim? I didn't make any regarding performance, you may want to
re-read the commit message.
Anyway, I'll halt replying to this topic. Nothing personal, but it's
getting annoying.
--
Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-11 5:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-09 15:53 [PATCH] target/file: don't zero iter before iov_iter_bvec Pavel Begunkov
2021-01-09 20:09 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-01-09 20:37 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-01-09 20:52 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-01-09 21:25 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-01-11 2:06 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-01-11 2:28 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-01-11 5:23 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-01-11 5:31 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2021-01-11 2:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-01-13 5:34 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-01-15 4:08 ` Martin K. Petersen
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