From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: "Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Dávid Bolvanský" <david.bolvansky@gmail.com>,
"Eli Friedman" <efriedma@quicinc.com>,
"# 3.4.x" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
"Arvind Sankar" <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
"Vishal Verma" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
"Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
"Daniel Axtens" <dja@axtens.net>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
"Alexandru Ardelean" <alexandru.ardelean@analog.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
"Rasmus Villemoes" <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] lib/string.c: implement stpcpy
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:31:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ccacb2a860151fdd6ce95371f1e0cd7658a308d1.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOdk4PRi45MXCtg4kmeN6c1AK5w9EJ1XFBJ5GyUjwEtRj1g@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 14:28 -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 2:24 PM Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 13:47 -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 9:34 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 07:09:44PM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > > > > LLVM implemented a recent "libcall optimization" that lowers calls to
> > > > > `sprintf(dest, "%s", str)` where the return value is used to
> > > > > `stpcpy(dest, str) - dest`. This generally avoids the machinery involved
> > > > > in parsing format strings. Calling `sprintf` with overlapping arguments
> > > > > was clarified in ISO C99 and POSIX.1-2001 to be undefined behavior.
> > > > >
> > > > > `stpcpy` is just like `strcpy` except it returns the pointer to the new
> > > > > tail of `dest`. This allows you to chain multiple calls to `stpcpy` in
> > > > > one statement.
> > > >
> > > > O_O What?
> > > >
> > > > No; this is a _terrible_ API: there is no bounds checking, there are no
> > > > buffer sizes. Anything using the example sprintf() pattern is _already_
> > > > wrong and must be removed from the kernel. (Yes, I realize that the
> > > > kernel is *filled* with this bad assumption that "I'll never write more
> > > > than PAGE_SIZE bytes to this buffer", but that's both theoretically
> > > > wrong ("640k is enough for anybody") and has been known to be wrong in
> > > > practice too (e.g. when suddenly your writing routine is reachable by
> > > > splice(2) and you may not have a PAGE_SIZE buffer).
> > > >
> > > > But we cannot _add_ another dangerous string API. We're already in a
> > > > terrible mess trying to remove strcpy[1], strlcpy[2], and strncpy[3]. This
> > > > needs to be addressed up by removing the unbounded sprintf() uses. (And
> > > > to do so without introducing bugs related to using snprintf() when
> > > > scnprintf() is expected[4].)
> > >
> > > Well, everything (-next, mainline, stable) is broken right now (with
> > > ToT Clang) without providing this symbol. I'm not going to go clean
> > > the entire kernel's use of sprintf to get our CI back to being green.
> >
> > Maybe this should get place in compiler-clang.h so it isn't
> > generic and public.
>
> https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47162#c7 and
> https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47144
> Seem to imply that Clang is not the only compiler that can lower a
> sequence of libcalls to stpcpy. Do we want to wait until we have a
> fire drill w/ GCC to move such an implementation from
> include/linux/compiler-clang.h back in to lib/string.c?
My guess is yes, wait until gcc, if ever, needs it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-15 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-15 0:24 [PATCH] lib/string.c: implement stpcpy Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 0:52 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-15 2:00 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 0:53 ` Sami Tolvanen
2020-08-15 1:33 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-15 1:40 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-15 2:09 ` [PATCH v2] " Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 2:58 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-15 3:42 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-15 16:34 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-15 17:38 ` Dávid Bolvanský
2020-08-15 20:47 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 21:23 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-15 21:27 ` Dávid Bolvanský
2020-08-15 21:28 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 21:31 ` Joe Perches [this message]
2020-08-15 22:17 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-16 0:19 ` Fangrui Song
2020-08-16 5:22 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-16 15:02 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-17 17:14 ` Sami Tolvanen
2020-08-17 18:36 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-17 19:15 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-17 20:13 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-17 21:45 ` Nick Desaulniers
[not found] ` <77557c29286140dea726cc334b4f59fc@AcuMS.aculab.com>
2020-08-18 8:32 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-17 19:16 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-15 2:00 ` [PATCH] " Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 22:17 ` David Laight
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