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From: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	David Long <dave.long@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 04/10] arm64: Kprobes with single stepping support
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 10:50:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce78f577-d14a-7b12-c96f-a6ebd8866283@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160725171350.GE2423@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 25/07/16 18:13, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 11:51:32AM -0400, David Long wrote:
>> On 07/22/2016 06:16 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 02:33:52PM -0400, David Long wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> The document states: "Up to MAX_STACK_SIZE bytes are copied". That means
>>> the arch code could always copy less but never more than MAX_STACK_SIZE.
>>> What we are proposing is that we should try to guess how much to copy
>>> based on the FP value (caller's frame) and, if larger than
>>> MAX_STACK_SIZE, skip the probe hook entirely. I don't think this goes
>>> against the kprobes.txt document but at least it (a) may improve the
>>> performance slightly by avoiding unnecessary copy and (b) it avoids
>>> undefined behaviour if we ever encounter a jprobe with arguments passed
>>> on the stack beyond MAX_STACK_SIZE.
>>
>> OK, it sounds like an improvement. I do worry a little about unexpected side
>> effects.
>
> You get more unexpected side effects by not saving/restoring the whole
> stack. We looked into this on Friday and came to the conclusion that
> there is no safe way for kprobes to know which arguments passed on the
> stack should be preserved, at least not with the current API.
>
> Basically the AArch64 PCS states that for arguments passed on the stack
> (e.g. they can't fit in registers), the caller allocates memory for them
> (on its own stack) and passes the pointer to the callee. Unfortunately,
> the frame pointer seems to be decremented correspondingly to cover the
> arguments, so we don't really have a way to tell how much to copy.
> Copying just the caller's stack frame isn't safe either since a
> callee/caller receiving such argument on the stack may passed it down to
> a callee without copying (I couldn't find anything in the PCS stating
> that this isn't allowed).

The PCS[1] seems (at least to me) to be pretty clear that "the address 
of the first stacked argument is defined to be the initial value of SP".

I think it is only the return value (when stacked via the x8 pointer) 
that can be passed through an intermediate function in the way described 
above. Isn't it OK for a jprobe to clobber this memory? The underlying 
function will overwrite whatever the jprobe put there anyway.

Am I overlooking some additional detail in the PCS?


Daniel.


[1] Google presented me revision IHI 0055B (via infocenter.arm.com)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-26  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-08 16:35 [PATCH v15 00/10] arm64: Add kernel probes (kprobes) support David Long
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 01/10] arm64: Add HAVE_REGS_AND_STACK_ACCESS_API feature David Long
2016-07-15 10:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-15 14:51     ` David Long
2016-07-15 15:13       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-15 17:51         ` David Long
2016-07-19 14:17           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 02/10] arm64: Add more test functions to insn.c David Long
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 03/10] arm64: add conditional instruction simulation support David Long
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 04/10] arm64: Kprobes with single stepping support David Long
2016-07-20  9:36   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-20 11:16     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-20 19:08     ` David Long
2016-07-21  8:44       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-20 15:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-21 14:50     ` David Long
2016-07-20 16:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-20 16:28     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-20 16:31       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-20 16:46       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-20 17:04         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-21 16:33     ` David Long
2016-07-21 17:16       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-21 17:23       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-21 18:33         ` David Long
2016-07-22 10:16           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-22 15:51             ` David Long
2016-07-25 17:13               ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-25 22:27                 ` David Long
2016-07-27 11:50                   ` Daniel Thompson
2016-07-27 22:13                     ` David Long
2016-07-28 14:40                       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-29  9:01                         ` Daniel Thompson
2016-08-04  4:47                           ` David Long
2016-08-08 11:13                             ` Daniel Thompson
2016-08-08 14:29                               ` David Long
2016-08-08 22:49                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-08-09 17:23                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-10 20:41                                   ` David Long
2016-08-08 22:19                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-07-26  9:50                 ` Daniel Thompson [this message]
2016-07-26 16:55                   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-27 10:01                     ` Dave Martin
2016-07-26 17:54                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-27 11:19                     ` Daniel Thompson
2016-07-27 11:38                       ` Dave Martin
2016-07-27 11:42                         ` Daniel Thompson
2016-07-27 13:38                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 05/10] arm64: Blacklist non-kprobe-able symbol David Long
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 06/10] arm64: Treat all entry code as non-kprobe-able David Long
2016-07-15 16:47   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-19  0:53     ` David Long
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 07/10] arm64: kprobes instruction simulation support David Long
2016-07-10 22:51   ` Paul Gortmaker
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 08/10] arm64: Add trampoline code for kretprobes David Long
2016-07-19 13:46   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-20 18:28     ` David Long
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 09/10] arm64: Add kernel return probes support (kretprobes) David Long
2016-07-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v15 10/10] kprobes: Add arm64 case in kprobe example module David Long
2016-07-14 16:22 ` [PATCH v15 00/10] arm64: Add kernel probes (kprobes) support Catalin Marinas
2016-07-14 17:09   ` William Cohen
2016-07-15  7:50     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-15  8:01       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-15  8:59         ` Alex Bennée
2016-07-15  9:04           ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-15  9:53           ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-14 17:56   ` David Long
2016-07-19 13:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-19 14:01     ` David Long
2016-07-19 18:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-07-19 19:38   ` David Long

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