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From: Simon Oosthoek <simon@ti-wmc.nl>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: kernel 2.6.8 pwc patches and counterpatches
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:02:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cgi65a$s76$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408250058.24845@smcc.demon.nl>

Nemosoft Unv. wrote:

> Actually, I've got a little surprise for you. The NDA I signed with Philips 
> has already expired a year ago. Yet, I didn't just throw the decompressor 
> code on the Internet. First, there could still be legal remedies since the 
> cams are still in production to this very day. Second, that NDA was signed 
> on a basis of trust and I do not want to lose that trust. I'm looking at 
> the bigger picture here: if we (Linux developers) can show we are 
> trustworthy, we may be able to get better support from hardware 
> manufacturers now and in the future (and really, that's what the kernel is 
> for 75% about ....) I'm still in contact with Philips and who knows, maybe 
> we can get all the source opened up...

I have one of those philips cams (bought it because I saw pwc in the 
kernel source), but I found out that without pwcx is was next to 
useless. I haven't found a good alternative camera though...

The fact that the NDA has expired already doesn't surprise me, but I 
would have expected some (or a huge) effort to liberate the source with 
full permission from Philips (they probably don't care anymore and could 
use the (marginal) good publicity more that the secret).

The fact that this hasn't happened is to me a hint that Nemosoft likes 
the power of "owning" it more that the chance of liberating it. But I 
could be wrong in that... (I apologise in advance if I'm wrong!)

I'd prefer that a clear choice is made on this, as Nemosoft suggests, 
because it shouldn't be in the kernel without the full decoding algorithms.

Cheers

Simon (a user)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-25 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <1092845135.8044.22.camel@localhost>
     [not found]   ` <20040823221028.GB4694@kroah.com>
2004-08-24 22:58     ` kernel 2.6.8 pwc patches and counterpatches Nemosoft Unv.
2004-08-24 23:04       ` Greg KH
2004-08-25  5:35         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Norbert Preining
2004-08-25  5:52           ` Greg KH
     [not found]         ` <200408260058.59490@smcc.demon.nl>
2004-08-26  7:18           ` Greg KH
2004-08-25 14:02       ` Simon Oosthoek [this message]
2004-08-26  9:22         ` Tuukka Toivonen
2004-08-26 11:17           ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-26 12:07             ` Tuukka Toivonen
2004-08-26  0:55       ` Rob van Nieuwkerk
2004-08-26  1:27         ` Rob van Nieuwkerk
2004-08-26  9:00       ` syrius.ml
2004-08-26 14:31 city_hunter
2004-08-26 18:25 ` Wouter Van Hemel
     [not found]   ` <20040826190701.GA13310@kroah.com>
2004-08-26 23:35     ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-26 23:40       ` Greg KH
2004-08-27  0:21         ` Wouter Van Hemel
     [not found]           ` <200408270917.47656.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-08-27 12:47             ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 12:58               ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-27 13:30                 ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 13:04               ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-27 13:13                 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-27 13:44                   ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 23:18                     ` Rob van Nieuwkerk
2004-08-28  0:03                       ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-28  0:19                         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-08-28  0:50                       ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 16:46                   ` Lee Revell
2004-08-27 13:35                 ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27  9:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27 12:56     ` Wouter Van Hemel
     [not found]   ` <buok6vldx4l.fsf@mctpc71.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
2004-08-27 12:38     ` Wouter Van Hemel
     [not found]   ` <200408270845.38015.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-08-27 12:44     ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 13:41       ` Paulo Marques
2004-08-27 13:58         ` Wouter Van Hemel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-27 14:07 Thomas Winischhofer
2004-08-27 20:01 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-28  3:03   ` Thomas Winischhofer
2004-08-28  6:55     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-08-28 14:46       ` Thomas Winischhofer
2004-08-28 17:13         ` Thomas Winischhofer
2004-08-29 13:28       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 15:00         ` Thomas Winischhofer
2004-08-27 16:26 Kenneth Lavrsen
2004-08-27 16:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27 17:01 ` Greg KH
2004-08-27 17:34 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-27 18:09   ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-27 18:35     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-08-27 20:47       ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-27 21:18         ` Kenneth Lavrsen
2004-08-28 16:22   ` Brian Beattie
2004-08-27 18:08 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-29 13:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-27 16:46 David McBride
2004-08-28  3:50 Thomas Winischhofer

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