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* RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
@ 2004-09-21 12:36 Tomasz Kłoczko
  2004-09-21 12:44 ` Tigran Aivazian
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Kłoczko @ 2004-09-21 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

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I'm just try prepare ARP/RARP/TFTP boot host and ..

# rarp -a
This kernel does not support RARP.
# modprobe rarp
FATAL: Module rarp not found.

[linux-2.6.8.1]$ grep RARP .config
[linux-2.6.8.1]$

What hepen with RARP support in kernel 2.6.x ?

kloczek
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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 12:36 RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ? Tomasz Kłoczko
@ 2004-09-21 12:44 ` Tigran Aivazian
  2004-09-21 12:52   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tigran Aivazian @ 2004-09-21 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Kłoczko; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz K³oczko wrote:
> [linux-2.6.8.1]$ grep RARP .config

Hmmm, you expected the above trivial command to reveal the answer? 
Besides, it assumes that you do have RARP configured in the kernel.

Try this command instead:

$ find -name Kconfig | xargs grep -i rarp
./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       supplied on the kernel command line or by BOOTP or RARP protocols.
./net/ipv4/Kconfig:config IP_PNP_RARP
./net/ipv4/Kconfig:     bool "IP: RARP support"
./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       discovered automatically at boot time using the RARP protocol (an
./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       here. Note that if you want to use RARP, a RARP server must be
./net/bridge/netfilter/Kconfig:   This option adds the ARP match, which allows ARP and RARP header fi

The option you are looking for is CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP.

Kind regards
Tigran



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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 12:44 ` Tigran Aivazian
@ 2004-09-21 12:52   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  2004-09-21 12:54     ` Tigran Aivazian
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Kłoczko @ 2004-09-21 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tigran Aivazian; +Cc: linux-kernel

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
>> [linux-2.6.8.1]$ grep RARP .config
>
> Hmmm, you expected the above trivial command to reveal the answer?
> Besides, it assumes that you do have RARP configured in the kernel.
>
> Try this command instead:
>
> $ find -name Kconfig | xargs grep -i rarp
> ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       supplied on the kernel command line or by BOOTP or RARP protocols.
> ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:config IP_PNP_RARP
> ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:     bool "IP: RARP support"
> ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       discovered automatically at boot time using the RARP protocol (an
> ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       here. Note that if you want to use RARP, a RARP server must be
> ./net/bridge/netfilter/Kconfig:   This option adds the ARP match, which allows ARP and RARP header fi
>
> The option you are looking for is CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP.

No. Look on IP_PNP_RARP description.
I don't want boot using RARP/ARP but want prepare system where will be
possible setup RARP table for boot other system using ARP/RARP/TFTP.

kloczek
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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 12:52   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
@ 2004-09-21 12:54     ` Tigran Aivazian
  2004-09-21 12:58       ` Tigran Aivazian
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tigran Aivazian @ 2004-09-21 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Kłoczko; +Cc: linux-kernel

ah, you want a RARP server, not a client, sorry.
I thought you wanted a RARP client.

Kind regards
Tigran

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz K³oczko wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz K³oczko wrote:
> >> [linux-2.6.8.1]$ grep RARP .config
> >
> > Hmmm, you expected the above trivial command to reveal the answer?
> > Besides, it assumes that you do have RARP configured in the kernel.
> >
> > Try this command instead:
> >
> > $ find -name Kconfig | xargs grep -i rarp
> > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       supplied on the kernel command line or by BOOTP or RARP protocols.
> > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:config IP_PNP_RARP
> > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:     bool "IP: RARP support"
> > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       discovered automatically at boot time using the RARP protocol (an
> > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       here. Note that if you want to use RARP, a RARP server must be
> > ./net/bridge/netfilter/Kconfig:   This option adds the ARP match, which allows ARP and RARP header fi
> >
> > The option you are looking for is CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP.
> 
> No. Look on IP_PNP_RARP description.
> I don't want boot using RARP/ARP but want prepare system where will be
> possible setup RARP table for boot other system using ARP/RARP/TFTP.
> 
> kloczek
> 


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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 12:54     ` Tigran Aivazian
@ 2004-09-21 12:58       ` Tigran Aivazian
  2004-09-21 13:00         ` Tigran Aivazian
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tigran Aivazian @ 2004-09-21 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Kłoczko; +Cc: linux-kernel

so, isn't rarpd (userspace daemon) supposed to provide what you want?
It is installed on most distributions by default I think...

Kind regards
Tigran

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:

> ah, you want a RARP server, not a client, sorry.
> I thought you wanted a RARP client.
> 
> Kind regards
> Tigran
> 
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz K³oczko wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz K³oczko wrote:
> > >> [linux-2.6.8.1]$ grep RARP .config
> > >
> > > Hmmm, you expected the above trivial command to reveal the answer?
> > > Besides, it assumes that you do have RARP configured in the kernel.
> > >
> > > Try this command instead:
> > >
> > > $ find -name Kconfig | xargs grep -i rarp
> > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       supplied on the kernel command line or by BOOTP or RARP protocols.
> > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:config IP_PNP_RARP
> > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:     bool "IP: RARP support"
> > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       discovered automatically at boot time using the RARP protocol (an
> > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       here. Note that if you want to use RARP, a RARP server must be
> > > ./net/bridge/netfilter/Kconfig:   This option adds the ARP match, which allows ARP and RARP header fi
> > >
> > > The option you are looking for is CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP.
> > 
> > No. Look on IP_PNP_RARP description.
> > I don't want boot using RARP/ARP but want prepare system where will be
> > possible setup RARP table for boot other system using ARP/RARP/TFTP.
> > 
> > kloczek
> > 
> 
> 


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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 12:58       ` Tigran Aivazian
@ 2004-09-21 13:00         ` Tigran Aivazian
  2004-09-21 13:17           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tigran Aivazian @ 2004-09-21 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Kłoczko; +Cc: linux-kernel

also, the manpage rarpd(8) says:

OBSOLETES
       This  rarpd obsoletes kernel rarp daemon present in Linux kernels up to
       2.2 which was controlled by the rarp(8) command.

which means the kernel version was removed much earlier.

Kind regards
Tigran

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:

> so, isn't rarpd (userspace daemon) supposed to provide what you want?
> It is installed on most distributions by default I think...
> 
> Kind regards
> Tigran
> 
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> 
> > ah, you want a RARP server, not a client, sorry.
> > I thought you wanted a RARP client.
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > Tigran
> > 
> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz K³oczko wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Tomasz K³oczko wrote:
> > > >> [linux-2.6.8.1]$ grep RARP .config
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm, you expected the above trivial command to reveal the answer?
> > > > Besides, it assumes that you do have RARP configured in the kernel.
> > > >
> > > > Try this command instead:
> > > >
> > > > $ find -name Kconfig | xargs grep -i rarp
> > > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       supplied on the kernel command line or by BOOTP or RARP protocols.
> > > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:config IP_PNP_RARP
> > > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:     bool "IP: RARP support"
> > > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       discovered automatically at boot time using the RARP protocol (an
> > > > ./net/ipv4/Kconfig:       here. Note that if you want to use RARP, a RARP server must be
> > > > ./net/bridge/netfilter/Kconfig:   This option adds the ARP match, which allows ARP and RARP header fi
> > > >
> > > > The option you are looking for is CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP.
> > > 
> > > No. Look on IP_PNP_RARP description.
> > > I don't want boot using RARP/ARP but want prepare system where will be
> > > possible setup RARP table for boot other system using ARP/RARP/TFTP.
> > > 
> > > kloczek
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 13:00         ` Tigran Aivazian
@ 2004-09-21 13:17           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  2004-09-21 17:08             ` Peter Buckingham
  2004-09-21 18:13             ` Bill Davidsen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Kłoczko @ 2004-09-21 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tigran Aivazian; +Cc: linux-kernel

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:

> also, the manpage rarpd(8) says:
>
> OBSOLETES
>       This  rarpd obsoletes kernel rarp daemon present in Linux kernels up to
>       2.2 which was controlled by the rarp(8) command.
>
> which means the kernel version was removed much earlier.

# ps aux | grep rarpd
root      4563  0.0  0.0  1456  332 ?        Ss   15:02   0:00 /usr/sbin/rarpd
# rarp -a
This kernel does not support RARP.

Maybe I'm wrong but IIRC rarpd as same as arpd was only neccessary for 
large RARP table.

kloczek
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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 13:17           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
@ 2004-09-21 17:08             ` Peter Buckingham
  2004-09-21 18:13             ` Bill Davidsen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Peter Buckingham @ 2004-09-21 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Kłoczko; +Cc: Tigran Aivazian, linux-kernel

Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> # rarp -a
> This kernel does not support RARP.

from man rarp:

NOTE
         This program is obsolete.  From version 2.3, the Linux kernel no
	longer contains  RARP  support.   For   a   replacement   RARP
	daemon, see ftp://ftp.dementia.org/pub/net-tools

peter

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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 13:17           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  2004-09-21 17:08             ` Peter Buckingham
@ 2004-09-21 18:13             ` Bill Davidsen
  2004-09-21 18:28               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bill Davidsen @ 2004-09-21 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> 
>> also, the manpage rarpd(8) says:
>>
>> OBSOLETES
>>       This  rarpd obsoletes kernel rarp daemon present in Linux 
>> kernels up to
>>       2.2 which was controlled by the rarp(8) command.
>>
>> which means the kernel version was removed much earlier.
> 
> 
> # ps aux | grep rarpd
> root      4563  0.0  0.0  1456  332 ?        Ss   15:02   0:00 
> /usr/sbin/rarpd
> # rarp -a
> This kernel does not support RARP.
> 
> Maybe I'm wrong but IIRC rarpd as same as arpd was only neccessary for 
> large RARP table.

Is it possible that you are using an old version of the rarp command 
which is trying to use the kernel RARP rather than using the rarpd?


-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 18:13             ` Bill Davidsen
@ 2004-09-21 18:28               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  2004-09-21 19:54                 ` David S. Miller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Kłoczko @ 2004-09-21 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Bill Davidsen wrote:
[..]
>> # rarp -a
>> This kernel does not support RARP.
>> 
>> Maybe I'm wrong but IIRC rarpd as same as arpd was only neccessary for 
>> large RARP table.
>
> Is it possible that you are using an old version of the rarp command which is 
> trying to use the kernel RARP rather than using the rarpd?

Yes.
rarp from old net-tools still try to open /proc/net/rarp and depending on
not avalaibability this file prints above message.

Seem it is undocumented in kernel documentation from where can be 
downloaded new rarp tool. Anyone know from where it can be downloaded ?

Previously pointed rarpd also cant be compiled without few changes (last 
release this package was in 1999).

kloczek
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* Re: RARP support disapeard in kernel 2.6.x ?
  2004-09-21 18:28               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
@ 2004-09-21 19:54                 ` David S. Miller
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: David S. Miller @ 2004-09-21 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz K³oczko; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:28:13 +0200 (CEST)
Tomasz K³oczko <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> wrote:

> rarp from old net-tools still try to open /proc/net/rarp and depending on
> not avalaibability this file prints above message.

You're not supposed to use the 'rarp' tool to configure
the rarpd daemon, you're supposed to use configuration files
such as /etc/ethers to configure it.

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