Re: [RFC] Splitting kernel headers and deprecating __KERNEL__

Herbert Poetzl
2004-11-30T05:31:35Z

On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 03:00:17PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> >
> > I don't see it as obvious at all. The need for an agreement between
> > two parties on an ABI doesn't imply that one party gets to define it
> > and the other gets to follow it.
>
> Sorry, but that's not how it works.
>
> He who writes the code decides what it is. In this case, if the kernel
> does a new extension, it's the kernel that gets to decide what it is.
> Full stop.
>
> If glibc wants to do something new, go wild. The kernel won't care.
>
> And that's really the fundamental issue. The kernel does not care what
> user land does. The kernel exports functionality, the kernel does _not_
> ask user land to help.

except for the user land kernel helpers ;)
via call_usermodehelper()

> That _does_ make it a one-way street. Sorry.
>
> Linus

sorry too,
Herbert

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