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From: filia@softhome.net
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
Cc: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: f_ops flag to speed up compatible ioctls in linux kernel
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 04:16:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <courier.4135A19B.00007EA5@softhome.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040901095229.GA11908@devserv.devel.redhat.com>

Arjan van de Ven writes: 

> On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 03:50:11AM -0600, filia@softhome.net wrote:
>> Hi!  
>> 
>> Stop being arrogant.
>> Can you please elaborate on how to make Linux kernel support e.g. motion 
>> controllers? They do not fit *any* known to me driver interface. They have 
>> several axes, they have about twenty parameters (float or integer), and 
> 
> parameters nicely fit in sysfs. 
> 

 What about errors?
 "set di 200000" might fail for lots of reasons. 

>> they have several commands, a-la start, graceful stop, abrupt stop. Plus 
>> obviously diagnostics - about ten another commands with absolutely 
>> different parameters. And about ten motion monitoring commands. And this is 
>> one example I were need to program. 
> 
> a write() interface doesn't work???
> Hard to believe, you even call them commands.
> fd = open("/dev/funkydevice");
> write(fd, "start"); 
> 
> doesn't sound insane to me 
> 

 it doesn't, since you didn't tryed to make error handling. every thing can 
fail - this is control of mechanics - and it fails often and for a lot of 
reasons. Put here error handling (write(struct whatever) has to return 
another struct whatever2 filled with error description) and thread-safeness. 
Pluss some controllers do support multi-dimensional movements "start 
x,y,z,etc" - and you might have _several_ error structs. Atomicity is 
important for multi-dimensional moves too - move on given axes starts with 
single command. 

 hu? 

 I do not see much point in renaming ioctl() to write() all over the place - 
at least when people see ioctl() they understand that it is not standard 
functionality. write() will for sure confuse a lot of people. 

 --- with respect. best regards.
***    Philips @ Saarbruecken. 

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-01 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-01  9:50 f_ops flag to speed up compatible ioctls in linux kernel filia
2004-09-01  9:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-01 10:16   ` filia [this message]
     [not found]     ` <4135B9FC.7050602@hist.no>
2004-09-01 13:29       ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-01 15:28         ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-02  7:29         ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-01 13:43     ` Olivier Galibert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-27 22:22 Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01 15:40 Albert Cahalan
2004-09-01 21:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01 21:38   ` Lee Revell
2004-09-01 21:43   ` Chris Wright
2004-09-01 21:44   ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 15:36 Albert Cahalan
2004-09-01 15:59 ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 21:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01 22:58     ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 23:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01  7:22 Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01  7:32 ` viro
2004-09-01  7:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01  7:47   ` Lee Revell
2004-09-01  8:19     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01 15:55   ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 18:02     ` Chris Wright
2004-09-01 18:12       ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 18:31         ` viro
2004-09-01 20:54       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]         ` <20040901170800.K1924@build.pdx.osdl.net>
     [not found]           ` <20040901190122.L1924@build.pdx.osdl.net>
2004-09-02  3:46             ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 18:06   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-01  8:30 ` Arjan van de Ven

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