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From: hpa@zytor.com (H. Peter Anvin)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 3TB disk hassles
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:33:51 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cubi8v$3mg$1@terminus.zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20050206105958.42872.qmail@web26501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com

Followup to:  <20050206105958.42872.qmail@web26501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
By author:    Neil Conway <nconway_kernel@yahoo.co.uk>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> Since writing the above, I've been searching for more info.  I
> downloaded four different versions of grub (GNU Grub Legacy, GNU Grub2,
> gentoo and Fedora Core 3).  NONE of these showed any evidence of GPT
> support (I was in a hurry, so I searched for strings EFI, GUID, GPT,
> TB).
> 
> Mucho confused puppy here.
> 
> I fail to see how grub can work on a GPT boot device if it can't parse
> the partition table.  I conclude that I'm still missing something. 
> Perhaps a layer before grub is supposed to parse the GPT instead?  If
> so, isn't that getting us straight back to a GPT-aware BIOS?
> 
> Tell me if this logic is broken: even if a special boot sector is used,
> which IS GPT-aware (though fitting that into the boot sector would be a
> challenge ;-)), once grub loads, it's still going to have to figure out
> how to find the root(hdX,Y) partition from which to load the kernel
> image.  This surely means it has to have either a GPT-parser
> internally, or rely on a pre-parsed list.  No?
> 
> Perhaps one of the other several distros (that I didn't check) has a
> GPT-aware grub.  But Tomas Carnecky said early in this thread that
> gentoo had allowed him to set up a GPT-booting system on x86.  I guess
> it's possible that a cheat was used - maybe an old-style partition
> table in the MBR was used to define the first (boot) partition, but
> surely that's forbidden by the whole EFI spec anyway?
> 

No, it's encouraged.

> 
> Andries Brouwer kindly wrote a patch which I haven't had time to test
> yet (see earlier in thread).  While it would be nice to find a way
> around the problem which didn't require deviations from vanilla
> distros, I think Andries' patch is looking like the only sane fix right
> now.
> 

Note that Andries' patch does *EXACTLY* the same thing as the GPT/EFI
spec does (by using an old-style partition table for the first 2 TB.)

It should be pretty easy to add native support for this in EXTLINUX;
the big problem is supporting true access > 2 TB, which I currently
don't have any way to test.

I'll put that on my todo list.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-08 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-06 10:59 3TB disk hassles Neil Conway
2005-02-06 19:01 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-02-08 23:33 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
     [not found] <linux.kernel.20041216145229.29167.qmail@web26502.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
2005-02-10  0:06 ` Jan Lindheim
     [not found] <fa.fng0mbi.10jm21g@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.ls0rpqi.104a23q@ifi.uio.no>
2005-02-05  2:58   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-02-05 11:14     ` Neil Conway
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-16 22:21 Rico Tudor
2004-12-16 14:52 Neil Conway
2004-12-16 15:33 ` Michelle Konzack
2004-12-16 15:37 ` Mark Watts
2004-12-16 15:38   ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2004-12-16 16:44     ` Neil Conway
2004-12-16 17:15       ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-12-16 17:38         ` Neil Conway
2004-12-16 18:05           ` Tomas Carnecky
2005-02-05  1:47             ` Neil Conway
2004-12-16 17:40         ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-12-16 15:52   ` Michelle Konzack
2004-12-16 16:03     ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-12-16 16:00       ` Alan Cox
2004-12-18  0:12         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-12-18  3:08           ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-12-18 12:15             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-12-18 23:32               ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 17:13                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-01-03 17:32                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-01-03 18:11                     ` linux-os
2004-12-16 17:10       ` Michelle Konzack
2004-12-16 19:52 ` Adam Heath
2004-12-16 23:28 ` Pedro Venda (SYSADM)
2005-02-05  1:51   ` Neil Conway

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