From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
Cc: lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
baohua@kernel.org, shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, kasong@tencent.com,
nphamcs@gmail.com, bhe@redhat.com, chrisl@kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] huge_mm.h: disallow is_huge_zero_folio(NULL)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 09:57:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d048aac6-7b70-44b7-9e92-7277bd49b182@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250827165309.44e465ff214e45f1a6665b24@linux-foundation.org>
On 28.08.25 01:53, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 17:03:30 +0200 Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com> wrote:
>
>> Calling is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should not be legal - it makes no
>> sense, and a different (theoretical) implementation may dereference
>> the pointer. But currently, lacking any explicit documentation, this
>> call is possible.
>>
>> But if somebody really passes NULL, the function should not return
>> true - this isn't the huge zero folio after all! However, if the
>> `huge_zero_folio` hasn't been allocated yet, it's NULL, and
>> is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) just happens to return true, which is a lie.
>>
>> This weird side effect prevented me from reproducing a kernel crash
>> that occurred when the elements of a folio_batch were NULL - since
>> folios_put_refs() skips huge zero folios, this sometimes causes a
>> crash, but sometimes does not. For debugging, it is better to reveal
>> such bugs reliably and not hide them behind random preconditions like
>> "has the huge zero folio already been created?"
>>
>> To improve detection of such bugs, David Hildenbrand suggested adding
>> a VM_WARN_ON_ONCE().
>>
>> ...
>>
>> --- a/include/linux/huge_mm.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/huge_mm.h
>> @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
>> #ifndef _LINUX_HUGE_MM_H
>> #define _LINUX_HUGE_MM_H
>>
>> +#include <linux/mmdebug.h> // for VM_WARN_ON_ONCE()
>> #include <linux/mm_types.h>
>>
>> #include <linux/fs.h> /* only for vma_is_dax() */
>> @@ -479,6 +480,8 @@ extern unsigned long huge_zero_pfn;
>>
>> static inline bool is_huge_zero_folio(const struct folio *folio)
>> {
>> + VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(folio == NULL);
>> +
>> return READ_ONCE(huge_zero_folio) == folio;
>> }
>
> OK, but it remains the case that we have seen code which calls
> is_huge_zero_folio() prior to the initialization of huge_zero_folio.
>
> Is this a bug? I think so. Should we be checking for recurrences of
> this bug?
As answered elsewhere, this is perfectly fine as the huge zero folio is
allocated on demand only (and only once enabled).
>
>
> Also, sigh. I do dislike seeing VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() in an inline
> function - heaven knows how much bloat that adds. Defconfig
> mm/huge_memory.o (which has three calls) grows by 80 bytes so I guess
> that's livable with.
Common practice to use VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() and friend in inline functions.
Just look at page-flags.h.
If someone complains about kernel image size with CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, they
shopuld reevaluate life choices. :)
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-28 7:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-26 23:16 [PATCH 1/2] huge_mm.h: is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should return false Max Kellermann
2025-08-26 23:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/swap: add BUG_ON(folio==NULL) to folios_put_refs() Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 1:42 ` Zi Yan
2025-08-27 2:12 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 9:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 1:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] huge_mm.h: is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should return false Zi Yan
2025-08-27 1:55 ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-27 4:39 ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 9:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 10:13 ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 11:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 13:06 ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 14:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 15:03 ` [PATCH v2] huge_mm.h: disallow is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 15:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 15:38 ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 20:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 20:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 20:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 8:48 ` [PATCH v3] " Max Kellermann
2025-08-28 9:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29 1:25 ` Zi Yan
2025-08-27 23:53 ` [PATCH v2] " Andrew Morton
2025-08-28 5:17 ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-28 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-27 15:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] huge_mm.h: is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should return false Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 9:35 ` David Hildenbrand
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