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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	andrii@kernel.org,  ast@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
	 martin.lau@linux.dev, song@kernel.org, yonghong.song@linux.dev,
	kpsingh@kernel.org,  sdf@fomichev.me, haoluo@google.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, mykolal@fb.com,  bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 4/5] bpf: verifier: Support eliding map lookup nullness
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 16:43:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0b5e424445f498fdedca04fd4b0f138fbb6ae36.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7taicw6c3f3yae4d6lrdagv26jiuihumklo4tkmqduvauargi@ld4bcmsbbiqn>

On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 17:40 -0700, Daniel Xu wrote:

[...]

> > Ok, thinking a bit more, the best test I can come up with is:
> > 
> >   u8 vals[8];
> >   vals[0] = 0;
> >   ...
> >   vals[6] = 0;
> >   vals[7] = 0xf;
> >   p = bpf_map_lookup_elem(... vals ...);
> >   *p = 42;
> > 
> > For LE vals as u32 should be 0x0f;
> > For BE vals as u32 should be 0xf000_0000.
> > Hence, it is not safe to remove null check for this program.
> > What would verifier think about the value of such key?
> > As far as I understand, there would be stack zero for for vals[0-6]
> > and u8 stack spill for vals[7].
> 
> Right. By checking that spill size is same as key size, we stay endian
> neutral, as constant values are tracked in native endianness.
> 
> However, if we were to start interpreting combinations of STACK_ZERO,
> STACK_MISC, and STACK_SPILL, the verifier would have to be endian aware
> (IIUC). Which makes it a somewhat interesting problem but also requires
> some thought to correctly handle the state space.

Right.

> > You were going to add a check for the spill size, which should help here.
> > So, a negative test like above that checks that verifier complains
> > that 'p' should be checked for nullness first?
> > 
> > If anyone has better test in mind, please speak-up.
> 
> I think this case reduces down to a spill_size != key_size test. As long
> as the sizes match, we don't have to worry about endianness.

Agree.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-20  0:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-12 23:22 [PATCH bpf-next v5 0/5] Support eliding map lookup nullness Daniel Xu
2024-12-12 23:22 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 1/5] bpf: verifier: Add missing newline on verbose() call Daniel Xu
2024-12-12 23:22 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 2/5] bpf: tcp: Mark bpf_load_hdr_opt() arg2 as read-write Daniel Xu
2024-12-16 18:18   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-12-12 23:22 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 3/5] bpf: verifier: Refactor helper access type tracking Daniel Xu
2024-12-13  4:04   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-12-13 20:02     ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-12 23:22 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 4/5] bpf: verifier: Support eliding map lookup nullness Daniel Xu
2024-12-13  4:04   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-12-13 20:57     ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-13 23:02   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-14  2:44     ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-14  3:13       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-12-16 23:24         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-12-19  0:09           ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-19 21:41           ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-20  0:04             ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-12-20  0:40               ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-20  0:43                 ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2024-12-20  0:49                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-20  4:00                     ` Daniel Xu
2024-12-13 23:10   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2024-12-13 23:14     ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-12-13 23:18       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-12-12 23:22 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 5/5] bpf: selftests: verifier: Add nullness elision tests Daniel Xu
2024-12-14  6:17   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-12-18  1:57     ` Daniel Xu

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