From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] xen/evtchn: read producer index only once
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 11:59:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0ca217c-ecc9-55f7-abb1-30a687a46b31@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e88526ac-6972-fe08-c58f-ea872cbdcc14@suse.com>
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On 08.02.21 11:51, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 08.02.2021 11:41, Jürgen Groß wrote:
>> On 08.02.21 10:48, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 06.02.2021 11:49, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>> In evtchn_read() use READ_ONCE() for reading the producer index in
>>>> order to avoid the compiler generating multiple accesses.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> drivers/xen/evtchn.c | 2 +-
>>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
>>>> index 421382c73d88..f6b199b597bf 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
>>>> @@ -211,7 +211,7 @@ static ssize_t evtchn_read(struct file *file, char __user *buf,
>>>> goto unlock_out;
>>>>
>>>> c = u->ring_cons;
>>>> - p = u->ring_prod;
>>>> + p = READ_ONCE(u->ring_prod);
>>>> if (c != p)
>>>> break;
>>>
>>> Why only here and not also in
>>>
>>> rc = wait_event_interruptible(u->evtchn_wait,
>>> u->ring_cons != u->ring_prod);
>>>
>>> or in evtchn_poll()? I understand it's not needed when
>>> ring_prod_lock is held, but that's not the case in the two
>>> afaics named places. Plus isn't the same then true for
>>> ring_cons and ring_cons_mutex, i.e. aren't the two named
>>> places plus evtchn_interrupt() also in need of READ_ONCE()
>>> for ring_cons?
>>
>> The problem solved here is the further processing using "p" multiple
>> times. p must not be silently replaced with u->ring_prod by the
>> compiler, so I probably should reword the commit message to say:
>>
>> ... in order to not allow the compiler to refetch p.
>
> I still wouldn't understand the change (and the lack of
> further changes) then: The first further use of p is
> outside the loop, alongside one of c. IOW why would c
> then not need treating the same as p?
Its value wouldn't change, as ring_cons is being modified only at
the bottom of this function, and nowhere else (apart from the reset
case, but this can't run concurrently due to ring_cons_mutex).
> I also still don't see the difference between latching a
> value into a local variable vs a "freestanding" access -
> neither are guaranteed to result in exactly one memory
> access afaict.
READ_ONCE() is using a pointer to volatile, so any refetching by
the compiler would be a bug.
> And of course there's also our beloved topic of access
> tearing here: READ_ONCE() also excludes that (at least as
> per its intentions aiui).
Yes, but I don't see an urgent need to fix that, as there would
be thousands of accesses in the kernel needing a fix. A compiler
tearing a naturally aligned access into multiple memory accesses
would be rejected as buggy from the kernel community IMO.
Juergen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-08 11:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-06 10:49 [PATCH 0/7] xen/events: bug fixes and some diagnostic aids Juergen Gross
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 1/7] xen/events: reset affinity of 2-level event initially Juergen Gross
2021-02-06 11:20 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-06 12:09 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-06 12:19 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 2/7] xen/events: don't unmask an event channel when an eoi is pending Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 10:06 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:21 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:15 ` Ross Lagerwall
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] xen/events: fix lateeoi irq acknowledgment Juergen Gross
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 4/7] xen/events: link interdomain events to associated xenbus device Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 23:26 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-09 13:55 ` Wei Liu
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] xen/events: add per-xenbus device event statistics and settings Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 23:35 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 6/7] xen/evtch: use smp barriers for user event ring Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 9:38 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 9:41 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 9:44 ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-08 9:50 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:23 ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-08 10:25 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:31 ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-08 10:36 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:45 ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 7/7] xen/evtchn: read producer index only once Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 9:48 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:41 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:51 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:59 ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2021-02-08 11:50 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 11:54 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 12:15 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 12:23 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 12:26 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 11:40 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 11:48 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 12:03 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-06 18:46 ` [PATCH 0/7] xen/events: bug fixes and some diagnostic aids Julien Grall
2021-02-07 12:58 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 9:11 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 9:41 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 9:54 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 10:22 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:40 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 12:14 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 12:16 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 12:31 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 13:09 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 13:58 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 14:20 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 14:35 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 14:50 ` Jürgen Groß
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