Touchpad "tapping" changes in 2.6.11?

Touchpad "tapping" changes in 2.6.11?

[Henrik Persson]

Hi there.

I noticed that the ALPS driver was added to 2.6.11, a thing that alot of 
people probably like, but since my touchpad (Acer Aspire 1300XV) worked 
perfectly before (like, 2.6.10) and now the ALPS driver disables 
'hardware tapping', wich makes it hard to tap. I commented out the 
disable-tapping bits in alps.c and now it's working like a charm again.

Maybe the hardware tapping-thing should be configurable via some boot or 
config option?

-- 
Henrik Persson

Re: Touchpad "tapping" changes in 2.6.11?

[Dmitry Torokhov]

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:14:02 +0100, Henrik Persson <root@fulhack.info> wrote:
> Hi there.
> 
> I noticed that the ALPS driver was added to 2.6.11, a thing that alot of
> people probably like, but since my touchpad (Acer Aspire 1300XV) worked
> perfectly before (like, 2.6.10) and now the ALPS driver disables
> 'hardware tapping', wich makes it hard to tap. I commented out the
> disable-tapping bits in alps.c and now it's working like a charm again.
> 

Hi,

Could you please try 2.6.11-mm1. It has bunch of Peter Osterlund's
patches that shoudl improve the situation with tapping.

> Maybe the hardware tapping-thing should be configurable via some boot or
> config option?
> 

After all quirks are worked out I think tapping will be controlled via
mousedev.tap_time parameter when using legacy interfaces
(dev/input/mouseX) and Peter's X driver when using native event
interface.

-- 
Dmitry

Re: Touchpad "tapping" changes in 2.6.11?

[Henrik Persson]

Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:14:02 +0100, Henrik Persson <root@fulhack.info> wrote:
> 
>>Hi there.
>>
>>I noticed that the ALPS driver was added to 2.6.11, a thing that alot of
>>people probably like, but since my touchpad (Acer Aspire 1300XV) worked
>>perfectly before (like, 2.6.10) and now the ALPS driver disables
>>'hardware tapping', wich makes it hard to tap. I commented out the
>>disable-tapping bits in alps.c and now it's working like a charm again.
>>
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Could you please try 2.6.11-mm1. It has bunch of Peter Osterlund's
> patches that shoudl improve the situation with tapping.

Well, -mm1 didn't quite agree with my savage gfx drivers. But I'm 
booting with psmouse.proto=exps now, and it's working the way I'm used 
to now.

The Aspire 1300-series is quite different from the 1350 ones.. The 
touchpad on the 1300 will work like a charm without the synaptics driver 
(but no fancy stuff is supported, I guess). Before you could boot and be 
happy without the synaptics driver, now you probably have to install the 
synaptics driver to be happy.. Maybe that's not so good. :)

Could this touchpad use the "exps" proto as default and then you could 
reconfigure if you want to use the ALPS driver..?

-- 
Henrik Persson

Re: Touchpad "tapping" changes in 2.6.11?

[Dmitry Torokhov]

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:10:27 +0100, Henrik Persson <root@fulhack.info> wrote:
> Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:14:02 +0100, Henrik Persson <root@fulhack.info> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi there.
> >>
> >>I noticed that the ALPS driver was added to 2.6.11, a thing that alot of
> >>people probably like, but since my touchpad (Acer Aspire 1300XV) worked
> >>perfectly before (like, 2.6.10) and now the ALPS driver disables
> >>'hardware tapping', wich makes it hard to tap. I commented out the
> >>disable-tapping bits in alps.c and now it's working like a charm again.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you please try 2.6.11-mm1. It has bunch of Peter Osterlund's
> > patches that shoudl improve the situation with tapping.
> 
> Well, -mm1 didn't quite agree with my savage gfx drivers. But I'm
> booting with psmouse.proto=exps now, and it's working the way I'm used
> to now.
> 
> The Aspire 1300-series is quite different from the 1350 ones.. The
> touchpad on the 1300 will work like a charm without the synaptics driver
> (but no fancy stuff is supported, I guess). Before you could boot and be
> happy without the synaptics driver, now you probably have to install the
> synaptics driver to be happy.. Maybe that's not so good. :)
> 
> Could this touchpad use the "exps" proto as default and then you could
> reconfigure if you want to use the ALPS driver..?
> 

We (well Peter and Vojtech mostly as I don't have ALPS touchpad in my
box) are trying to make ALPS work as it was working before even
without Synaptics X driver without any additional options, please bear
with us.

Still I think having Synaptics driver installed is the best way in the
end simply because it has a lot of knobs so one can adjust tpouchpad's
behavior to his/her liking. Maybe once distibutions start packaging
and activating it by default it will be less of an issue.

-- 
Dmitry

Re: Touchpad "tapping" changes in 2.6.11?

[Peter Osterlund]

Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:10:27 +0100, Henrik Persson <root@fulhack.info> wrote:
> > Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:14:02 +0100, Henrik Persson <root@fulhack.info> wrote:
> > >
> > >>I noticed that the ALPS driver was added to 2.6.11, a thing that alot of
> > >>people probably like, but since my touchpad (Acer Aspire 1300XV) worked
> > >>perfectly before (like, 2.6.10) and now the ALPS driver disables
> > >>'hardware tapping', wich makes it hard to tap. I commented out the
> > >>disable-tapping bits in alps.c and now it's working like a charm again.
> > >
> > > Could you please try 2.6.11-mm1. It has bunch of Peter Osterlund's
> > > patches that shoudl improve the situation with tapping.
> > 
> > Well, -mm1 didn't quite agree with my savage gfx drivers. But I'm
> > booting with psmouse.proto=exps now, and it's working the way I'm used
> > to now.
> > 
> > The Aspire 1300-series is quite different from the 1350 ones.. The
> > touchpad on the 1300 will work like a charm without the synaptics driver
> > (but no fancy stuff is supported, I guess). Before you could boot and be
> > happy without the synaptics driver, now you probably have to install the
> > synaptics driver to be happy.. Maybe that's not so good. :)
> > 
> > Could this touchpad use the "exps" proto as default and then you could
> > reconfigure if you want to use the ALPS driver..?
> 
> We (well Peter and Vojtech mostly as I don't have ALPS touchpad in my
> box) are trying to make ALPS work as it was working before even
> without Synaptics X driver without any additional options, please bear
> with us.

I have some touchpad related patches in my tree, which I have uploaded
here:

        http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/patches/touchpad/2.6.11/

All of these patches are already in -mm I think.

> Still I think having Synaptics driver installed is the best way in the
> end simply because it has a lot of knobs so one can adjust tpouchpad's
> behavior to his/her liking. Maybe once distibutions start packaging
> and activating it by default it will be less of an issue.

Fedora Core 3 already does that if I remember correctly.

-- 
Peter Osterlund - petero2@telia.com
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Re: Touchpad "tapping" changes in 2.6.11?

[Dmitry Torokhov]

On 07 Mar 2005 22:29:26 +0100, Peter Osterlund <petero2@telia.com> wrote:
> Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> writes:
> > Still I think having Synaptics driver installed is the best way in the
> > end simply because it has a lot of knobs so one can adjust tpouchpad's
> > behavior to his/her liking. Maybe once distibutions start packaging
> > and activating it by default it will be less of an issue.
> 
> Fedora Core 3 already does that if I remember correctly.
> 

It does have synaptics driver packaged but if I remember correctly it
is not automatically selected during installation.

-- 
Dmitry