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From: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matteo Rizzo <matteorizzo@google.com>,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] perf/x86: Check data address for IBS software filter
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:24:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1dec8b8-10c8-4da0-920a-d1f744543253@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9m20YMkMfUDBxgv@google.com>

Hi Namhyung,

>>> IBS software filter was to filter kernel samples for regular users in
>>> PMI handler.  It checks the instruction address in the IBS register to
>>> determine if it was in the kernel more or not.
>>>
>>> But it turns out that it's possible to report a kernel data address even
>>> if the instruction address belongs to the user space.  Matteo Rizzo
>>> found that when an instruction raises an exception, IBS can report some
>>> kernel data address like IDT while holding the faulting instruction's
>>> RIP.  To prevent an information leak, it should double check if the data
>>> address in PERF_SAMPLE_DATA is in the kernel space as well.
>>
>> PERF_SAMPLE_RAW can also leak kernel data address. How about:
> 
> Thanks for your review.
> 
> I think RAW is different as it requires perf_event_paranoid == -1.

IBS allows PERF_SAMPLE_RAW irrespective of perf_event_paranoid. e.g.:

  $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid
  2

  $ ./perf record -e ibs_op/swfilt=1/u --raw-samples -- make
  [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
  [ perf record: Captured and wrote 1.371 MB perf.data (3957 samples) ]

  $ ./perf script -D | egrep -A2 "LdOp 1.*DcLinAddrValid 1" | egrep "IbsDCLinAd:\s*f"
  IbsDCLinAd:     fffffe00000000e8

We have two options:
1) Restrict IBS + PERF_SAMPLE_RAW to privilege users.
2) Remove all sensitive information from raw register dump before
   passing it to userspace. (Kernel data addresses and all physical
   addresses are the only sensitive info I suppose?).

2 is better IMO since it will allow unprivileged user to use IBS
with full potential. wdyt?

Thanks,
Ravi

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-19 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-17 16:37 [PATCH v2] perf/x86: Check data address for IBS software filter Namhyung Kim
2025-03-17 22:51 ` [tip: perf/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Namhyung Kim
2025-03-18 10:32 ` [PATCH v2] " Ravi Bangoria
2025-03-18 18:09   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-03-19 10:54     ` Ravi Bangoria [this message]
2025-03-19 20:30       ` Namhyung Kim
2025-03-19 22:18         ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-21 16:19           ` Ravi Bangoria

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