From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:33:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:33:03 -0500 Received: from smtp1.cern.ch ([137.138.128.38]:59914 "EHLO smtp1.cern.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:32:56 -0500 To: "David S. Miller" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 In-Reply-To: <200101080124.RAA08134@pizda.ninka.net> <200101082148.NAA21738@pizda.ninka.net> From: Jes Sorensen Date: 08 Jan 2001 23:32:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: "David S. Miller"'s message of "Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:48:08 -0800" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.070096 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.96) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>>>> "David" == David S Miller writes: David> We _had_ to change some drivers to show how to support this new David> SKB api for transmit sg+csum support. If you can think of a David> way for us to effectively do this work without changing at David> least a few drivers as examples (and proof of concept), please David> let us know. Dave, I am not complaining about drivers having to be changed for this to work I am fully aware of this need. My complaints are about how this is being done, ie. I some people try to maintain drivers and have certain ideas about how they structure their code etc. If you had sent me a short email saying this is what we plan to do and this is what we think should be done to your code, whats your oppinion. I would have volunteered to help write the code and get the stuff integrated much earlier as well as given you my input on how I would like to see the changes implemented. Instead we now have a fairly large patch which will take me a long time to merge into the driver version that I maintain. David> In the process we hit real bugs in your driver, and tried to David> deal with them as best we could so that we could continue David> testing and debugging our own code. I would have appreciated a simple email saying "we found bug X in your driver" with either a patch attached or a short note of your observations. David> As a side note, as much as you may hate some of Alexey's David> changes to your driver, several things he does fixes long David> standing real bugs in the Acenic driver that you've been David> papering over with workarounds for quite some time. I would David> even go so far as to say that in many regards Alexey David> understands the Acenic much better than you, and you would be David> wise to work with Alexey and not against him. Thanks. I don't question Alexey's skills and I have no intentions of working against him. All I am asking is that someone lets me know if they make major changes to my code so I can keep track of whats happening. It is really hard to maintain code if you work on major changes while someone else branches off in a different direction without you knowing. It's simply a waste of everybody's time. Thanks Jes - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/