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From: Jes Sorensen <jes@linuxcare.com>
To: "Petr Vandrovec" <VANDROVE@vc.cvut.cz>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
	Ion Badulescu <ionut@moisil.cs.columbia.edu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, becker@scyld.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] starfire reads irq before pci_enable_device.
Date: 15 Feb 2001 17:09:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d366ic0vxw.fsf@lxplus015.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <157828DC5517@vcnet.vc.cvut.cz>
In-Reply-To: "Petr Vandrovec"'s message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:54:22 MET-1"

>>>>> "Petr" == Petr Vandrovec <VANDROVE@vc.cvut.cz> writes:

Petr> On 14 Feb 01 at 16:35, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>>  What else is sending out 802.3 frames these days? I really don't
>> care about IPX when it comes to performance.
>> 
>> I am just advocating that we optimize for the common case which is
>> DIX frames and not 802.3.

Petr> Pardon me, but IPX in 802.3 and IPX in DIX are exactly same
Petr> frames on wire, except that IPX/802.3 contains frame length in
Petr> bytes 0x0C/0x0D, while IPX/DIX contains 0x8137 here. They have
Petr> same length, and same length of media header, so I really do not
Petr> understand.

Petr> If you are talking about encapsulation which is known as
Petr> `ethernet_802.2' in IPX world, then it is true, it has odd bytes
Petr> in header. But nobody sane except Appletalk uses 802.2
Petr> now... Our Suns already died due to this couple of years ago ;-)

My point is that you rarely see Ethernet frames with 802.3 except for
places running IPX.

Jes

  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-15 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-14 16:54 [PATCH] starfire reads irq before pci_enable_device Petr Vandrovec
2001-02-15 16:09 ` Jes Sorensen [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-02-07 19:52 davej
2001-02-07 19:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-07 20:34   ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-08  4:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08  1:52   ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-08 20:28     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08 21:18       ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-08 21:38         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08 22:05           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 19:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-09 20:07               ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 20:11                 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-09 20:21                   ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 20:26                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08 21:43         ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-08 21:46           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 21:43           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-09 21:52             ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-12 18:54               ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-14  1:35                 ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-10 14:48             ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-08 21:26       ` Donald Becker
2001-02-08 22:16         ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09  0:09           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09  0:44           ` Donald Becker
2001-02-09  0:47             ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 10:49             ` Alan Cox
2001-02-09 23:32               ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 23:35                 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-10  8:48                   ` Gérard Roudier
2001-02-12 19:01                     ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-13 13:06                       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-13 20:29                         ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14  2:05                           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14 20:10                             ` Gérard Roudier
2001-02-14 15:39                         ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-17 21:34                         ` David S. Miller
2001-02-19 11:00                           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-09 21:42       ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-09 22:56         ` Donald Becker
2001-02-12 18:54           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-14  1:20             ` Donald Becker
2001-02-14 12:37               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-14 12:49                 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-14 12:54                   ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14 13:05                     ` Alan Cox
2001-02-14 13:38                       ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14 15:35               ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-07 18:42 davej

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