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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>,
	rae l <crquan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: -Os versus -O2
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:03:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d66e01c9d04540d058a93d5b70421985@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706241801320.10397@asgard.lang.hm>

> then do we need a new option 'optimize for best overall performance' 
> that goes for size (and the corresponding wins there) most of the 
> time, but is ignored where it makes a huge difference?

That's -Os mostly.  Some awful CPUs really need higher
loop/label/function alignment though to get any
performance; you could add -falign-xxx options for those.

> in reality this was a flaw in gcc that on modern CPU's with the larger 
> difference between CPU speed and memory speed it still preferred to 
> unroll loops (eating more memory and blowing out the cpu cache) when 
> it shouldn't have.

You told it to unroll loops, so it did.  No flaw.  If you
feel the optimisations enabled by -O2 should depend on the
CPU tuning selected, please file a PR.

Also note that whether or not it is profitable to unroll
a particular loop depends largely on how "hot" that loop
is, and GCC doesn't know much about that if you don't feed
it profiling information (it can guess a bit, sure, but it
can guess wrong too).


Segher


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-25  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-23  5:15 [PATCH] trivial: the memset operation on a automatic array variable should be optimized out by data initialization Denis Cheng
2007-06-23  7:59 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-23 13:13   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-23 13:41     ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-23 13:57       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-23 15:21         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-24 12:58   ` rae l
2007-06-24 22:25     ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-24 22:15       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-24 23:23         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-06-25  0:09           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  0:12             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-06-25  0:23               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  0:41                 ` -Os versus -O2 Adrian Bunk
2007-06-25  0:58                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  1:08                     ` david
2007-06-25  1:17                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  1:33                         ` david
2007-06-25  1:41                           ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  5:04                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-25  7:08                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  7:15                               ` david
2007-06-25  7:41                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  8:19                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-25  8:41                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  7:03                       ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-06-25  7:13                         ` david
2007-06-25  7:35                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  1:33                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-25  1:23                   ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  1:31                     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  1:34                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-25  1:46                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-25  2:19                       ` david
2007-06-24 23:33         ` memset() with zeroes (Re: [PATCH] trivial: the memset operation on a automatic array variable should be optimized out by data initialization) Oleg Verych

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