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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Bohac <jbohac@suse.cz>
Cc: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, Philipp Rudo <prudo@redhat.com>,
	Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>, Tao Liu <ltao@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Hildenbrand <dhildenb@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/5] kdump: wait for DMA to finish when using CMA
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 18:25:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7cbbab2-8fe0-4a10-8b06-e47da955865e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aD8b7Q8Z9sC8meGU@dwarf.suse.cz>

On 03.06.25 17:59, Jiri Bohac wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 03:15:03PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 30.05.25 22:29, Jiri Bohac wrote:
>>> When re-using the CMA area for kdump there is a risk of pending DMA into
>>> pinned user pages in the CMA area.
>>>
>>> Pages that are pinned long-term are migrated away from CMA, so these are
>>> not a concern. Pages pinned without FOLL_LONGTERM remain in the CMA and may
>>> possibly be the source or destination of a pending DMA transfer.
>>
>> I'll note that we right now do have an upstream BUG where that is sometimes
>> not the case. I mentioned it previously that such bugs will be a problem :(
>>
>> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20250523023709epcms1p236d4f55b79adb9366ec1cf6d5792b06b@epcms1p2
> 
> I'll just reitarate the whole purpose of this patchset, as
> added to Documentation:

I know, but stating "these are not a concern", when they are currently a 
concern upstream is a bit suboptimal. :)

I'd phrase it more like "Pages residing in CMA areas can usually not get 
long-term pinned, so long-term pinning is typically not a concern. BUGs 
in the kernel might still lead to long-term pinning of such pages if 
everything goes wrong."

Or sth like that.

>>> +static void crash_cma_clear_pending_dma(void)
>>> +{
>>> +	unsigned int s = cma_dma_timeout_sec;
>>> +
>>> +	if (!crashk_cma_cnt)
>>> +		return;
>>> +
>>> +	while (s--)
>>> +		mdelay(1000);
>>
>> Any reason we cannot do it in a single mdelay() invocation?
>>
>> mdelay() already is a loop around udelay on larger values IIUC.
> 
> No good reasons ;)
> I just wanted to prevent a totally theoretical overflow (if cma_dma_timeout_sec was made configurable;
> I also anticipated someone might want to add some progress printks into the cycle (without verifying if
> that's even possible in this context).
> 
> If you want, I have no problem changing this to:
> +	mdelay(cma_dma_timeout_sec * 1000);

Probably good enough. Or just hard-code 10s and call it a day. :)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-03 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-30 20:23 [PATCH v4 0/5] kdump: crashkernel reservation from CMA Jiri Bohac
2025-05-30 20:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] Add a new optional ",cma" suffix to the crashkernel= command line option Jiri Bohac
2025-05-30 20:27 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] kdump: implement reserve_crashkernel_cma Jiri Bohac
2025-05-30 20:28 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] kdump, documentation: describe craskernel CMA reservation Jiri Bohac
2025-05-30 20:29 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] kdump: wait for DMA to finish when using CMA Jiri Bohac
2025-06-03 13:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 15:59     ` Jiri Bohac
2025-06-03 16:25       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-04  7:40         ` Jiri Bohac
2025-06-04  7:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04  8:15             ` [PATCH v5 " Jiri Bohac
2025-05-30 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] x86: implement crashkernel cma reservation Jiri Bohac
2025-06-03 11:02   ` Baoquan He
2025-06-03 12:11     ` Jiri Bohac
2025-06-03 12:56       ` Baoquan He

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