Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

Spam
2004-09-06T08:06:49Z

> Salut,

> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:50:31PM +0200, Spam wrote:
>> Their libraries are huge and memory hogging which so many Linux
>> users just do not like.

> This is rather a fud argument: both the gnome VFS code and the
> KIOserver/KIOslave code aren't really large. You don't want to use
> them for a busybox/tinylogin system, however.

Then it is good. Just I see no programs other than Gnome or KDE apps
that are using them.

>> What if a user doesn't want KDE or Gnome? Would all files created
>> with either be broken?

> The files still work well, just that you can't access them over the
> old fancy URL schemes.

No only, but if you cp then with a non KDE/Gnome app then you will
loose the meta-data and extra info too. That was my point.

>> I doubt that something like file streams and meta-data can
>> successfully be implemented purely in user-space and get the same
>> support (ie be used by many programs) if this change doesn't come
>> from the kernel. I just do not see it happen.

> Actually, practical discordianism. If you develop a common API,
> there'll always be people disagreeing.

> GTK+ with all its features is just cool. Desktop warping is a really
> nice thing. But there are people out there who don't want to use
> it. They use QT, or even plain old Athena Widgets. So what? Will we be
> implementing the X toolkits into the kernel?

This is certainly not what I said or wanted.

> In case of marketing it's up to the distributions to provide something
> concise so everyone can use their programs through a coherent
> namespace. (I.e. port all the apps they ship to gnome-vfs or kio).

Do you really believe this will happen? Good if it did. I do not
believe it. And I certainly do not see the thousands of man hours
needed to actually provide all the patches as a benefit.

~S

> Tonnerre