From: ambx1@neo.rr.com
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: James Bruce <bruce@andrew.cmu.edu>,
David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>,
Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Marc Ballarin <Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:20:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbb91149e.1149edbb9@columbus.rr.com> (raw)
----- Original Message -----
From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Date: Monday, August 1, 2005 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 12:18:18PM -0400, James Bruce wrote:
> >
> > The tradeoff is a realistic 4.4% power savings vs a 300% increase
> in the
> > minimum sleep period. A user will see zero power savings if they
> have a
> > USB mouse (probably 99% of desktops). On top of that, we can
> throw in
> > Con's disturbing AV benchmark results (1). As a result, some of
> us
> > don't think 250HZ is a great tradeoff to make
> _for_the_default_value_.
> Most laptops (including mine, a Thinkpad T40) use a PS/2 mouse. So in
> the places where power consumption savins matters most, it's usually
> quite possible to function without needing any USB devices. The 90%
> figure isn't at all right; in fact, it may be that over 90% of the
> laptops still use PS/2 mice and keyboards.
>
> - Ted
Also, my understanding was that when we properly support usb suspend,
this won't be an issue anyway for much usb hardware. I think it's
possible to put some mice to sleep when there isn't any motion and
then wakeup later.
4.4% savings may not be much, but these things do add up. For a
laptop's workload, I think this is worth it.
Thanks,
Adam
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2005-08-03 15:20 ambx1 [this message]
2005-08-03 16:47 ` Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers James Bruce
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2005-07-29 22:49 Marc Ballarin
2005-07-29 23:15 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06 ` Marc Ballarin
2005-07-30 18:05 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:18 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-30 18:14 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:35 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:00 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 19:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 20:04 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 20:21 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 21:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 21:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 21:57 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:32 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:20 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-08-01 1:59 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-02 9:08 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-07-31 21:54 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:02 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:18 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:07 ` Jim Crilly
2005-07-31 22:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 22:39 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 3:49 ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-01 7:26 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-01 18:16 ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-10 18:49 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-31 22:12 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:47 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:23 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 23:29 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:53 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 7:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-08-01 6:19 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-08-01 16:07 ` Jan Knutar
2005-08-01 18:45 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 9:13 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-08-02 14:58 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 7:44 ` David Weinehall
2005-08-01 16:18 ` James Bruce
2005-08-01 19:27 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:42 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-08-02 4:50 ` James Bruce
2005-08-02 13:10 ` Stephen Clark
2005-08-02 14:02 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:12 ` Jens Axboe
2005-08-02 17:06 ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-08-02 17:45 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-02 17:55 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:15 ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-02 14:20 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 14:22 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:18 ` Joel Jaeggli
2005-08-03 8:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-02 14:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-02 14:52 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 19:26 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 15:42 ` James Bruce
2005-08-02 15:58 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 17:02 ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-08-02 16:08 ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-05 6:39 ` James Bruce
2005-08-11 19:22 ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-03 9:19 ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-03 13:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-04 12:52 ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-02 6:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-02 11:23 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:08 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:31 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-02 11:25 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:07 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-03 17:13 ` Stephen Ray
2005-08-03 19:12 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:08 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:08 ` Bill Davidsen
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