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From: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux trace kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] tracing: Guard __DECLARE_TRACE() use of __DO_TRACE_CALL() with SRCU-fast
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 11:19:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dcc3a509-d8fd-4f46-8051-683d7277fde7@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJMa+p_BcYxKUgve2=sqRBwSs3wLGAGhbA0r6hwFpJ+6Q@mail.gmail.com>



On 1/9/26 11:10 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 6:45 AM Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>> On 2026-01-08 22:05, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>> From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
>> [...]
>>
>> I disagree with many elements of the proposed approach.
>>
>> On one end we have BPF wanting to hook on arbitrary tracepoints without
>> adding significant latency to PREEMPT RT kernels.
>>
>> One the other hand, we have high-speed tracers which execute very short
>> critical sections to serialize trace data into ring buffers.
>>
>> All of those users register to the tracepoint API.
>>
>> We also have to consider that migrate disable is *not* cheap at all
>> compared to preempt disable.
> Looks like your complaint comes from lack of engagement in kernel
> development.
> migrate_disable _was_ not cheap.
> Try to benchmark it now.
> It's inlined. It's a fraction of extra overhead on top of preempt_disable.
>
The following are related patches to inline migrate_disable():

35561bab768977c9e05f1f1a9bc00134c85f3e28 arch: Add the macro COMPILE_OFFSETS to all the asm-offsets.c
88a90315a99a9120cd471bf681515cc77cd7cdb8 rcu: Replace preempt.h with sched.h in include/linux/rcupdate.h
378b7708194fff77c9020392067329931c3fcc04 sched: Make migrate_{en,dis}able() inline


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-09 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-09  3:05 [PATCH v5] tracing: Guard __DECLARE_TRACE() use of __DO_TRACE_CALL() with SRCU-fast Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 14:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 17:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 18:58     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-13 13:56       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-09 19:10   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 19:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 20:21       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 21:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12  7:23           ` Menglong Dong
2026-01-12 15:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 15:36             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12 15:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-09 21:54         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 22:00           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 22:18             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 22:31               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-01-09 22:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 22:39                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-10  0:35                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-10 16:14                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-11 20:04                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-11 22:09                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-11 23:38                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-12 13:53                             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12 17:19                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-13 14:23                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-13 23:44                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-09 19:19     ` Yonghong Song [this message]

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