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From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
To: "Chen, Yian" <yian.chen@intel.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Ravi Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	"Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Paul Lai <paul.c.lai@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] x86/vsyscall: Setup vsyscall to compromise LASS protection
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 18:49:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de08c24f-782d-69e5-6547-6efe0c4ca94a@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adf3a609-656f-82a2-6a4e-199a12de298b@intel.com>

>> The existing documentation here is incorrect. The default vsyscall 
>> mode is actually xonly. This has been so since:
>> commit 625b7b7f79c6 (x86/vsyscall: Change the default vsyscall mode to 
>> xonly)
>>
> Yes, you are right. but this patch can overwrite and correct existing 
> one. I am assuming we don't need to correct the existing document first 
> before update it for LASS.
> 

We should fix this independent of the LASS enabling. I sent a patch 
earlier today to address it. I apologize, I missed cc'ing you.

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230111193211.1987047-1-sohil.mehta@intel.com/

>>> +            In newer versions of Intel platforms that come with
>>
>> Words such as "newer" in the kernel start losing meaning very quickly. 
>> Also, this comment looks out of place in between the vsyscall 
>> sub-options.
>>
>>> +            LASS(Linear Address Space separation) protection,
>>> +            vsyscall is disabled by default. Enabling vsyscall
>>> +            via the parameter overrides LASS protection.
>>> +
> Sure, I will take out this part change.

Actually, having some text here might be ok. I mistook it to be placed 
between the sub-options. But avoid merging it with the previous 
paragraph as is the case right now.

>> Instead of doing this dance, can we provide a simplified behavior to 
>> the user/admin and move the decision making to compile time?
>>
> Current strategy is to disable vsyscall by default only for LASS capable 
> platforms. So that the dynamic decision is likely a necessary.
> 

Making this dynamic and platform dependent would make things hard to 
debug and isolate. It would be a perfect recipe for "But, it works on my 
system!" type of issues.

Let's see what others have to say.

-Sohil

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-12  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-10  5:51 [PATCH 0/7] Enable LASS (Linear Address space Separation) Yian Chen
2023-01-10  5:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86/cpu: Enumerate LASS CPUID and CR4 bits Yian Chen
2023-01-10 20:14   ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-11  0:13     ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-11 23:23       ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12  0:06         ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-12  0:15           ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-11 19:21     ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-10  5:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86: Add CONFIG option X86_LASS Yian Chen
2023-01-10 21:05   ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12  0:13     ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-10  5:52 ` [PATCH 3/7] x86/cpu: Disable kernel LASS when patching kernel alternatives Yian Chen
2023-01-10 21:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-11  1:01     ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-11  9:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-10 22:41   ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12  0:27     ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12  0:37       ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-12 18:36         ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12 18:48           ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-01  2:25             ` Sohil Mehta
2023-02-01 18:20               ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-01  2:10         ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-10  5:52 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86/vsyscall: Setup vsyscall to compromise LASS protection Yian Chen
2023-01-11  0:34   ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12  1:43     ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12  2:49       ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2023-01-21  4:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-01-10  5:52 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86/cpu: Enable LASS (Linear Address Space Separation) Yian Chen
2023-01-11 22:22   ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-12 17:56     ` Chen, Yian
2023-01-12 18:17   ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-13  1:17     ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-13 19:39       ` Sohil Mehta
2023-01-10  5:52 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86/cpu: Set LASS as pinning sensitive CR4 bit Yian Chen
2023-01-10  5:52 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86/kvm: Expose LASS feature to VM guest Yian Chen
2023-02-07  3:21   ` Wang, Lei
2023-02-09 17:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-10 19:48 ` [PATCH 0/7] Enable LASS (Linear Address space Separation) Sohil Mehta
2023-01-10 22:57 ` Dave Hansen

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