From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from foss.arm.com (foss.arm.com [217.140.110.172]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A4C16EC08 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 14:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.140.110.172 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719326762; cv=none; b=Soc1zuxV+gK/EzCGYV9gg6CY/207G1AwCjr5DCywoW6Cc980o9r/XqqmRgHJ46ZY/j2pdKgDLX3/eU9fTEWSOedbUVQ57ufPpOPegKZUHTpSW0mKjsPXV8X3tahYs4cAyyMD8dU7q/6KuBbKCnHcrzvO/S2IvCCmyz95bSXVQeU= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719326762; c=relaxed/simple; bh=iOLjYYvI730HAzLOyq5czCRUlADggSHfg7r1FOsen0U=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=iiDAimb+9SzNIvhOIk0pKvDNEAV2Qq59kK8PQa6f1kWNDBSZwTzi0Sge3Wkbn+WHMbtzl7L902gGFaFlPRhHwWabjGRD6zgV7ad3PfglQvlQgl4ZrZAJj6dpCK4Uf3mzAvQ1N4EtNxdntRRbfVHOa08V7O/Lvwb3t4zL8V4OA2Y= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=arm.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=arm.com; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.140.110.172 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=arm.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=arm.com Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD45339; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.39.170] (XHFQ2J9959.cambridge.arm.com [10.1.39.170]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF0363F73B; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 15:45:54 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 18/18] arm64/mm: Automatically fold contpte mappings Content-Language: en-GB To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Baolin Wang , Kefeng Wang , Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Ard Biesheuvel , Marc Zyngier , James Morse , Andrey Ryabinin , Andrew Morton , Mark Rutland , David Hildenbrand , John Hubbard , Zi Yan , Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Alistair Popple , Yang Shi , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , "H. Peter Anvin" , "Yin, Fengwei" , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20240215103205.2607016-19-ryan.roberts@arm.com> <1285eb59-fcc3-4db8-9dd9-e7c4d82b1be0@huawei.com> <8d57ed0d-fdd0-4fc6-b9f1-a6ac11ce93ce@arm.com> <018b5e83-789e-480f-82c8-a64515cdd14a@huawei.com> <43a5986a-52ea-4090-9333-90af137a4735@linux.alibaba.com> <306874fe-9bc1-4dec-a856-0125e4541971@arm.com> From: Ryan Roberts In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 25/06/2024 15:06, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Ryan Roberts wrote: >> On 25/06/2024 14:06, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 01:41:02PM +0100, Ryan Roberts wrote: >>>> On 25/06/2024 13:37, Baolin Wang wrote: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>> For other filesystems, like ext4, I did not found the logic to determin what >>>>>>> size of folio to allocate in writable mmap() path >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes I'd be keen to understand this to. When I was doing contpte, page cache >>>>>> would only allocate large folios for readahead. So that's why I wouldn't have >>>>> >>>>> You mean non-large folios, right? >>>> >>>> No I mean that at the time I wrote contpte, the policy was to allocate an >>>> order-0 folio for any writes that missed in the page cache, and allocate large >>>> folios only when doing readahead from storage into page cache. The test that is >>>> regressing is doing writes. >>> >>> mmap() faults also use readahead. >>> >>> filemap_fault(): >>> >>> folio = filemap_get_folio(mapping, index); >>> if (likely(!IS_ERR(folio))) { >>> if (!(vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_TRIED)) >>> fpin = do_async_mmap_readahead(vmf, folio); >>> which does: >>> if (folio_test_readahead(folio)) { >>> fpin = maybe_unlock_mmap_for_io(vmf, fpin); >>> page_cache_async_ra(&ractl, folio, ra->ra_pages); >>> >>> which has been there in one form or another since 2007 (3ea89ee86a82). >> >> OK sounds like I'm probably misremembering something I read on LWN... You're >> saying that its been the case for a while that if we take a write fault for a >> portion of a file, then we will still end up taking the readahead path and >> allocating a large folio (filesystem permitting)? Does that apply in the case >> where the file has never been touched but only ftruncate'd, as is happening in >> this test? There is obviously no need for IO in that case, but have we always >> taken a path where a large folio may be allocated for it? I thought that bit was >> newer for some reason. > > The pagecache doesn't know whether the file contains data or holes. > It allocates folios and then invites the filesystem to fill them; the > filesystem checks its data structures and then either issues reads if > there's data on media or calls memset if the records indicate there's > a hole. > > Whether it chooses to allocate large folios or not is going to depend > on the access pattern; a sequential write pattern will use large folios > and a random write pattern won't. > > Now, I've oversimplified things a bit by talking about filemap_fault. > Before we call filemap_fault, we call filemap_map_pages() which looks > for any suitable folios in the page cache between start and end, and > maps those. OK that all makes sense, thanks. I guess it just means I don't have an excuse for the perf regression. :)