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* Re: + minmax-add-umina-b-and-umaxa-b.patch added to mm-nonmm-unstable branch
       [not found] <20230927173033.AF86DC433C7@smtp.kernel.org>
@ 2023-09-27 19:21 ` Alexey Dobriyan
  2023-09-27 20:00   ` Matthew Wilcox
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Dobriyan @ 2023-09-27 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Laight
  Cc: linux-kernel, willy, torvalds, Jason, hch, david.laight,
	andriy.shevchenko, akpm

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:30:33AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> +#define umin(x, y)	\
> +	__careful_cmp((x) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, (y) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, <)

kmin() and kmax() are (of course!) much better names.

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* Re: + minmax-add-umina-b-and-umaxa-b.patch added to mm-nonmm-unstable branch
  2023-09-27 19:21 ` + minmax-add-umina-b-and-umaxa-b.patch added to mm-nonmm-unstable branch Alexey Dobriyan
@ 2023-09-27 20:00   ` Matthew Wilcox
  2023-09-28  8:38     ` Alexey Dobriyan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matthew Wilcox @ 2023-09-27 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexey Dobriyan
  Cc: David Laight, linux-kernel, torvalds, Jason, hch,
	andriy.shevchenko, akpm

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:21:41PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:30:33AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > +#define umin(x, y)	\
> > +	__careful_cmp((x) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, (y) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, <)
> 
> kmin() and kmax() are (of course!) much better names.

it's unsigned, not user.

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* Re: + minmax-add-umina-b-and-umaxa-b.patch added to mm-nonmm-unstable branch
  2023-09-27 20:00   ` Matthew Wilcox
@ 2023-09-28  8:38     ` Alexey Dobriyan
  2023-09-28  8:55       ` David Laight
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Dobriyan @ 2023-09-28  8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matthew Wilcox
  Cc: David Laight, linux-kernel, torvalds, Jason, hch,
	andriy.shevchenko, akpm

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 09:00:37PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:21:41PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:30:33AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > +#define umin(x, y)	\
> > > +	__careful_cmp((x) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, (y) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, <)
> > 
> > kmin() and kmax() are (of course!) much better names.
> 
> it's unsigned, not user.

Yes, but the same idea applies to signed types:

min, max require identical types
min_t force type
kmin, kmax are relaxed min/max versions if signednesses match.

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* RE: + minmax-add-umina-b-and-umaxa-b.patch added to mm-nonmm-unstable branch
  2023-09-28  8:38     ` Alexey Dobriyan
@ 2023-09-28  8:55       ` David Laight
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: David Laight @ 2023-09-28  8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Alexey Dobriyan', Matthew Wilcox
  Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Jason@zx2c4.com, hch@infradead.org,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org

From: Alexey Dobriyan
> Sent: 28 September 2023 09:39
> 
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 09:00:37PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:21:41PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:30:33AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > +#define umin(x, y)	\
> > > > +	__careful_cmp((x) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, (y) + 0u + 0ul + 0ull, <)
> > >
> > > kmin() and kmax() are (of course!) much better names.
> >
> > it's unsigned, not user.

Linus suggested umin() as being much shorter than the min_unsigned()
I'd originally used.

> Yes, but the same idea applies to signed types:

The kernel pretty much never wants a cast to convert a large
unsigned value to a negative signed one.
If the types mismatch both values are normally non-negative
so doing an unsigned compare is right.
If you do need to treat 0u - 1 as a signed value then adding
an explicit cast is probably a good idea!

> min, max require identical types
> min_t force type
> kmin, kmax are relaxed min/max versions if signednesses match.

The 'identical types' case is pointless, and the 'force type'
often buggy.

The only reason for any type-check is to stop 'integer promotion'
converting a negative value to a very large unsigned one.
And even that isn't why the typecheck was added to min().
(That is, there is no indication that it ever caused a bug.)

	David

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