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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Cc: martin.petersen@oracle.com, djwong@kernel.org,
	david@fromorbit.com, himanshu.madhani@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] readv.2: Document RWF_ATOMIC flag
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 09:47:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dee45e9a-6a45-e949-2b46-1373fea8dcda@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ba10b14-931b-42db-b7c2-e6f9aa95e477@acm.org>

On 03/10/2023 20:25, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 9/29/23 02:37, John Garry wrote:
>> +.BR RWF_ATOMIC " (since Linux 6.7)"
>> +Allows block-based filesystems to indicate that write operations will 
>> be issued
>> +with torn-write protection. Torn-write protection means that for a 
>> power or any
>> +other hardware failure, all or none of the data from the write will 
>> be stored,
>> +but never a mix of old and new data. This flag is meaningful only for
>> +.BR pwritev2 (),
>> +and its effect applies only to the data range written by the system 
>> call.
>> +The total write length must be power-of-2 and must be sized between
>> +stx_atomic_write_unit_min and stx_atomic_write_unit_max, both 
>> inclusive. The
>> +write must be at a natural offset within the file with respect to the 
>> total
>> +write length. Torn-write protection only works with
>> +.B O_DIRECT
>> +flag, i.e. buffered writes are not supported. To guarantee 
>> consistency from
>> +the write between a file's in-core state with the storage device,
> 
> It seems wrong to me to start the first sentence with "Allows". Atomic
> behavior should be mandatory if RWF_ATOMIC has been set.

Yes, I agree that this has been poorly worded. Flag RWF_ATOMIC does not 
indicate anything. I will fix it.

> 
> Additionally, shouldn't it be documented what value will be stored in
> errno if the atomic write has been rejected?

So I was treating all atomic writes errors which don't follow the 
"rules" as low-level I/O errors, which is -EIO. However, yes, I can 
document this. Further to that, based on description of an error for 
O_DIRECT, which is to return -EINVAL for misaligned, I think that 
-EINVAL may be better for any atomic write rule violations. OK?

Thanks,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29  9:37 [PATCH 0/4] man2: Document RWF_ATOMIC John Garry
2023-09-29  9:37 ` [PATCH 1/4] statx.2: Document STATX_WRITE_ATOMIC John Garry
2023-09-29  9:37 ` [PATCH 2/4] readv.2: Document RWF_ATOMIC flag John Garry
2023-10-03 19:25   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04  8:47     ` John Garry [this message]
2023-10-04 17:36       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04 22:48       ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-09 17:44   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-09 20:39     ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-09 21:05       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-24 12:35         ` John Garry
2023-10-24 15:39           ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-24 12:30     ` John Garry
2023-10-24 15:39       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-29  9:37 ` [PATCH 3/4] man2/open.2: Document RWF_ATOMIC John Garry
2023-09-29  9:37 ` [PATCH 4/4] io_submit.2: " John Garry
2023-10-09 17:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-24 11:51     ` John Garry

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