From: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Patrick Roy <patrick.roy@linux.dev>,
Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Kalyazin,
Nikita" <kalyazin@amazon.co.uk>,
shivankg@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] KVM: guest_memfd: Add DEFAULT_SHARED flag, reject user page faults if not set
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 10:51:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <diqz4isl351g.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2fa49af-112b-4de9-8c03-5f38618b1e57@redhat.com>
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_DEFAULT_SHARED;
>>>>
>>>> At least for now, GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_DEFAULT_SHARED and
>>>> GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP don't make sense without each other. Is it worth
>>>> checking for that, at least until we have in-place conversion? Having
>>>> only GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_DEFAULT_SHARED set, but GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP,
>>>> isn't a useful combination.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's okay to have the two flags be orthogonal from the start.
>>
>> I think I dimly remember someone at one of the guest_memfd syncs
>> bringing up a usecase for having a VMA even if all memory is private,
>> not for faulting anything in, but to do madvise or something? Maybe it
>> was the NUMA stuff? (+Shivank)
>
> Yes, that should be it. But we're never faulting in these pages, we only
> need the VMA (for the time being, until there is the in-place conversion).
>
Yup, Sean's patch disables faulting if GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_DEFAULT_SHARED
is not set, but mmap() is always enabled so madvise() still works.
Requiring GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_DEFAULT_SHARED to be set together with
GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP would still allow madvise() to work since
GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_DEFAULT_SHARED only gates faulting.
To clarify, I'm still for making GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_DEFAULT_SHARED
orthogonal to GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP with no additional checks on top of
whatever's in this patch. :)
> --
> Cheers
>
> David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-29 10:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-26 16:31 [PATCH 0/6] KVM: Avoid a lurking guest_memfd ABI mess Sean Christopherson
2025-09-26 16:31 ` [PATCH 1/6] KVM: guest_memfd: Add DEFAULT_SHARED flag, reject user page faults if not set Sean Christopherson
2025-09-29 8:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 8:57 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-09-29 9:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 9:04 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-09-29 9:43 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-29 10:15 ` Patrick Roy
2025-09-29 10:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 10:51 ` Ackerley Tng [this message]
2025-09-29 16:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-30 0:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-30 8:36 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-01 14:22 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-01 16:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-01 16:31 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-01 17:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-01 22:13 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-02 0:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-02 15:41 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-03 0:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-03 4:10 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-03 16:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-03 20:30 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-09-29 16:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-26 16:31 ` [PATCH 2/6] KVM: selftests: Stash the host page size in a global in the guest_memfd test Sean Christopherson
2025-09-29 9:12 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-09-29 9:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 10:56 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-29 16:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-30 6:52 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-26 16:31 ` [PATCH 3/6] KVM: selftests: Create a new guest_memfd for each testcase Sean Christopherson
2025-09-29 9:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 9:24 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-09-29 11:02 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-26 16:31 ` [PATCH 4/6] KVM: selftests: Add test coverage for guest_memfd without GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP Sean Christopherson
2025-09-29 9:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 9:24 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-09-26 16:31 ` [PATCH 5/6] KVM: selftests: Add wrappers for mmap() and munmap() to assert success Sean Christopherson
2025-09-29 9:24 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-09-29 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 11:08 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-29 17:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-30 7:09 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-30 14:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-01 10:18 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-26 16:31 ` [PATCH 6/6] KVM: selftests: Verify that faulting in private guest_memfd memory fails Sean Christopherson
2025-09-29 9:24 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-09-29 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 14:38 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-29 18:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-29 18:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-30 7:53 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-30 14:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-01 10:26 ` Ackerley Tng
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