public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Joe Seigh <jseigh_02@xemaps.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Notifier chains are unsafe
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:59:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <djlo8l$7hv$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0510241634410.4448-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

Alan Stern wrote:
> Has anyone been bothered by the fact that notifier chains are not safe 
> with regard to registration and unregistration while the chain is in use?
> The notifier_chain_register and notifier_chain_unregister routines have 
> writelock protections, but the corresponding readlock is never taken!
> 
> It shouldn't be hard to make this work safely, even allowing such things
> as notifier routines unregistering themselves as they run.  The patch
> below contains an example implementation, showing one way to do it.
> 
> But doing this correctly requires knowing how notifier chains are used.  
> 
> 	Are they always called in process context, with interrupts enabled?
> 
> 	Or do some get called in interrupt context?
> 
> 	Are there any notifier chains invoked on a critical fast path?
> 	(I hope not...)
> 
> 	How many different threads are likely to call a particular 
> 	notifier chain at one time?
> 
> Feedback is requested.
> 
> Alan Stern
> 
[...]

It's not clear how you are making this safe.  You aren't using one
of the known solutions to this problem.  For GC lock-free based solutions,
you can't use RCU since notify_call can sleep.  You could use a
form of reference counting but you'd have to implement it yourself.
Ditto on RCU+SMR or some other form of proxy GC.  Not implemented.

You could use COR (Copy On Read).  Make a copy of the list while holding
a lock, release the lock, do the notifications, and then delete the copy
of the list.

The non-blocking schemes can do notify_calls after unregistration so you
need to take this into account.  Whatever you're calling against still
has to be there and has to be in a meaningful state.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-25 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-24 20:48 Notifier chains are unsafe Alan Stern
2005-10-25 16:59 ` Joe Seigh [this message]
2005-10-25 23:30 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 18:46   ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 19:05     ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-26 20:40       ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 21:44         ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 23:20           ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27  1:17             ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-28  1:36               ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 14:13           ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 22:40     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 15:28       ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 20:43         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 21:21           ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 23:02             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28  0:48               ` Keith Owens
2005-10-28  1:34                 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28 14:23                   ` Alan Stern
2005-10-28 22:15                     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-29 14:51                       ` Alan Stern
2005-10-31 22:22                         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 15:24                           ` Alan Stern
2005-11-01 20:20                             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 21:20                               ` Alan Stern
2005-11-02  9:50                                 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-02 16:03                                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1130460600.30060.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2005-10-28  4:35                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-10-25 23:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26  0:01   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 17:11     ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-27  2:46       ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-29 12:25         ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-26  6:11 ` Keith Owens

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='djlo8l$7hv$1@sea.gmane.org' \
    --to=jseigh_02@xemaps.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox