From: Zlatko Calusic <zlatko@iskon.hr>
To: Simon Kirby <sim@stormix.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Subtle MM bug
Date: 09 Jan 2001 21:10:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dnwvc4ij01.fsf@magla.iskon.hr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dnbstgewoj.fsf@magla.iskon.hr> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101091041150.2070-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <20010109145352.A23691@stormix.com>
In-Reply-To: Simon Kirby's message of "Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:53:52 -0500"
Simon Kirby <sim@stormix.com> writes:
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:47:57AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > And this _is_ a downside, there's no question about it. There's the worry
> > about the potential loss of locality, but there's also the fact that you
> > effectively need a bigger swap partition with 2.4.x - never mind that
> > large portions of the allocations may never be used. You still need the
> > disk space for good VM behaviour.
> >
> > There are always trade-offs, I think the 2.4.x tradeoff is a good one.
>
> Hmm, perhaps you could clarify...
>
> For boxes that rarely ever use swap with 2.2, will they now need more
> swap space on 2.4 to perform well, or just boxes which don't have enough
> RAM to handle everything nicely?
>
Just boxes that were already short on memory (swapped a lot) will need
more swap, empirically up to 4 times as much. If you already had
enough memory than things will stay almost the same for you.
But anyway, after some testing I've done recently I would now not
recommend anybody to have less than 2 x RAM size swap partition.
> I've always been tending to make swap partitions smaller lately, as it
> helps in the case where we have to wait for a runaway process to eat up
> all of the swap space before it gets killed. Making the swap size
> smaller speeds up the time it takes for this to happen, albeit something
> which isn't supposed to happen anyway.
>
Well, if you continue with that practice now you will be even more
successful in killing such processes, I would say. :)
--
Zlatko
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-08 5:29 Subtle MM bug Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 5:42 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-08 6:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 17:44 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 17:16 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 23:41 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 2:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 6:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-09 7:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 11:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-09 12:29 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 19:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-09 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-10 17:32 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:33 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:43 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:48 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 9:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-10 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-11 12:56 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 13:10 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 13:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 14:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:03 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-11 19:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:57 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-11 16:50 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-11 17:35 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:38 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-11 19:01 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-09 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 8:46 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-25 22:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-09 19:53 ` Simon Kirby
2001-01-09 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:10 ` Zlatko Calusic [this message]
2001-01-10 1:45 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-10 2:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10 6:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 11:46 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-10 14:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10 17:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-10 18:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-17 14:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-10 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 19:27 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 19:36 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 23:56 ` David Weinehall
2001-01-11 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-12 5:56 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-12 16:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-12 21:11 ` Russell King
2001-01-15 2:56 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15 6:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-15 2:53 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15 8:41 ` Caches, page coloring, virtual indexed caches, and more Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-15 11:54 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15 12:53 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-15 17:41 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-17 4:36 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-16 9:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-17 4:43 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-17 8:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-15 17:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-16 4:58 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15 18:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-15 12:51 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-17 14:28 ` Subtle MM bug Rik van Riel
2001-01-18 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 11:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-11 14:36 ` Jim Gettys
2001-01-08 21:30 ` Wayne Whitney
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-10 19:57 Chris Wing
2001-01-08 20:39 Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-01-08 21:56 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 23:22 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 23:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 0:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 22:00 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 22:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-07 20:59 Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-07 21:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-07 22:33 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 2:01 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17 4:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17 18:53 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-18 1:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-17 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
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