From: "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1] sched/fair: limit load balance redo times at the same sched_domain level
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 10:55:47 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01cc082-6332-2a49-9f2f-3a1144f4426d@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtAJ7Lcj0mckc6XRGpD54LOEJkSSLxvz-1JeTdeDwdvBtw@mail.gmail.com>
On 2021/2/24 1:33, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 06:41, Li, Aubrey <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> Sorry for the delay, I just returned from Chinese New Year holiday.
>>
>> On 2021/1/25 22:51, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 15:00, Li, Aubrey <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2021/1/25 18:56, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 06:50, Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A long-tail load balance cost is observed on the newly idle path,
>>>>>> this is caused by a race window between the first nr_running check
>>>>>> of the busiest runqueue and its nr_running recheck in detach_tasks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before the busiest runqueue is locked, the tasks on the busiest
>>>>>> runqueue could be pulled by other CPUs and nr_running of the busiest
>>>>>> runqueu becomes 1, this causes detach_tasks breaks with LBF_ALL_PINNED
>>>>>
>>>>> We should better detect that when trying to detach task like below
>>>>
>>>> This should be a compromise from my understanding. If we give up load balance
>>>> this time due to the race condition, we do reduce the load balance cost on the
>>>> newly idle path, but if there is an imbalance indeed at the same sched_domain
>>>
>>> Redo path is there in case, LB has found an imbalance but it can't
>>> move some loads from this busiest rq to dest rq because of some cpu
>>> affinity. So it tries to fix the imbalance by moving load onto another
>>> rq of the group. In your case, the imbalance has disappeared because
>>> it has already been pulled by another rq so you don't have to try to
>>> find another imbalance. And I would even say you should not in order
>>> to let other level to take a chance to spread the load
>>>
>>>> level, we have to wait the next softirq entry to handle that imbalance. This
>>>> means the tasks on the second busiest runqueue have to stay longer, which could
>>>> introduce tail latency as well. That's why I introduced a variable to control
>>>> the redo loops. I'll send this to the benchmark queue to see if it makes any
>>>
>>> TBH, I don't like multiplying the number of knobs
>>
>> Sure, I can take your approach, :)
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> @@ -7688,6 +7688,16 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
>>>>>
>>>>> lockdep_assert_held(&env->src_rq->lock);
>>>>>
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * Another CPU has emptied this runqueue in the meantime.
>>>>> + * Just return and leave the load_balance properly.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + if (env->src_rq->nr_running <= 1 && !env->loop) {
>>
>> May I know why !env->loop is needed here? IIUC, if detach_tasks is invoked
>
> IIRC, my point was to do the test only when trying to detach the 1st
> task. A lot of things can happen when a break is involved but TBH I
> can't remember a precise UC. It may be over cautious
When the break happens, rq unlock and local irq restored, so it's still possible
the rq is emptied by another CPU.
>
>> from LBF_NEED_BREAK, env->loop could be non-zero, but as long as src_rq's
>> nr_running <=1, we should return immediately with LBF_ALL_PINNED flag cleared.
>>
>> How about the following change?
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> index 04a3ce20da67..1761d33accaa 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> @@ -7683,8 +7683,11 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
>> * We don't want to steal all, otherwise we may be treated likewise,
>> * which could at worst lead to a livelock crash.
>> */
>> - if (env->idle != CPU_NOT_IDLE && env->src_rq->nr_running <= 1)
>> + if (env->idle != CPU_NOT_IDLE && env->src_rq->nr_running <= 1) {
>
> IMO, we must do the test before: while (!list_empty(tasks)) {
>
> because src_rq might have become empty if waiting tasks have been
> pulled by another cpu and the running one became idle in the meantime
Okay, after the running one became idle, it still has LBF_ALL_PINNED, which
needs to be cleared as well. Thanks!
>
>> + /* Clear the flag as we will not test any task */
>> + env->flag &= ~LBF_ALL_PINNED;
>> break;
>> + }
>>
>> p = list_last_entry(tasks, struct task_struct, se.group_node);
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Aubrey
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-24 2:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-25 6:02 [RFC PATCH v1] sched/fair: limit load balance redo times at the same sched_domain level Aubrey Li
2021-01-25 9:06 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-25 13:53 ` Li, Aubrey
2021-01-25 14:40 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-25 10:56 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-25 14:00 ` Li, Aubrey
2021-01-25 14:51 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-26 1:40 ` Li, Aubrey
2021-02-23 5:41 ` Li, Aubrey
2021-02-23 17:33 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-02-24 2:55 ` Li, Aubrey [this message]
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