From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
irogers@google.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
ak@linux.intel.com, eranian@google.com,
dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V9 3/3] perf/x86/intel: Support PEBS counters snapshotting
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:25:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e05bb0c7-cbbb-422a-882c-1dfa648b29e9@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f0ed750-b4b3-4adc-98d2-1e9cccd3bf02@linux.intel.com>
On 2025-01-16 4:50 p.m., Liang, Kan wrote:
>
>
> On 2025-01-16 3:56 p.m., Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 09:42:25PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 10:55:46AM -0500, Liang, Kan wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Also, I think I found you another bug... Consider what happens to the
>>>>> counter value when we reschedule a HES_STOPPED counter, then we skip
>>>>> x86_pmu_start(RELOAD) on step2, which leave the counter value with
>>>>> 'random' crap from whatever was there last.
>>>>>
>>>>> But meanwhile you do program PEBS to sample it. That will happily sample
>>>>> this garbage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not quite sure I understand the issue.
>>>>
>>>> The HES_STOPPED counter should be a pre-existing counter. Just for some
>>>> reason, it's stopped, right? So perf doesn't need to re-configure the
>>>> PEBS__DATA_CFG, since the idx is not changed.
>>>
>>> Suppose you have your group {A, B, C} and lets suppose A is the PEBS
>>> event, further suppose that B is also a sampling event. Lets say they
>>> get hardware counters 1,2 and 3 respectively.
>>>
>>> Then lets say B gets throttled.
>>>
>>> While it is throttled, we get a new event D scheduled, and D gets placed
>>> on counter 2 -- where B lives, which gets moved over to counter 4.
>>>
>>> Then our loops will update and remove B from 2, but because
>>> throttled/HES_STOPPED it will not start it on counter 4.
>>>>> Meanwhile, we do have the PEBS_DATA_CFG thing updated to sample counter
>>> 1,3 and 4.
>>>
>>> PEBS assist happens, and samples the uninitialized counter 4.
>>> Also, by skipping x86_pmu_start() we miss the assignment of
>> cpuc->events[] so PEBS buffer decode can't even find the dodgy event.
>>
>
> Yes, counter 4 includes garbage before the B is started again.
> But the cpuc->events[counter 4] is NULL either.
>
> The current implementation ignores the NULL cpuc->events[]. The stopped
> B should not be mistakenly updated.
>
> +static void intel_perf_event_pmc_to_count(struct perf_event *event, u64
> pmc)
> +{
> + int shift = 64 - x86_pmu.cntval_bits;
> + struct hw_perf_event *hwc;
> + u64 delta, prev_pmc;
> +
> + /*
> + * The PEBS record doesn't shrink on pmu::del().
> + * See pebs_update_state().
> + * Ignore the non-exist event.
> + */
> + if (!event)
> + return;
>
>
I've sent a V10 to address all the comments in V9.
The above case is explained in the comments of
intel_perf_event_update_pmc() in V10.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250121152303.3128733-4-kan.liang@linux.intel.com/
Please take a look and let me know if it's not sufficient to handle the
case.
Thanks,
Kan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-21 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-15 18:43 [PATCH V9 1/3] perf/x86/intel: Avoid pmu_disable/enable if !cpuc->enabled in sample read kan.liang
2025-01-15 18:43 ` [PATCH V9 2/3] perf: Avoid the read if the count is already updated kan.liang
2025-01-15 18:43 ` [PATCH V9 3/3] perf/x86/intel: Support PEBS counters snapshotting kan.liang
2025-01-16 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 15:55 ` Liang, Kan
2025-01-16 20:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 20:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 21:50 ` Liang, Kan
2025-01-21 15:25 ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2025-01-23 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 15:36 ` Liang, Kan
2025-01-16 12:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 10:32 ` [PATCH V9 1/3] perf/x86/intel: Avoid pmu_disable/enable if !cpuc->enabled in sample read Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
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