From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
paulmck@kernel.org, lirongqing@baidu.com, leonylgao@tencent.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] hung_task: Add hung_task_sys_info sysctl to dump sys info on task-hung
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 01:57:36 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0d12460-3ed8-43d4-8c0b-a7aa544d946e@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRyOxD5kytnneUQY@pathway.suse.cz>
On 2025/11/18 23:20, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Mon 2025-11-17 09:53:52, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 22:13:58 +0800 Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> if (need_warning || hung_task_call_panic) {
>>>>> si_mask |= SYS_INFO_LOCKS;
>>>>
>>>> Looks good to me now! I assume v3 would be expected, can you
>>>> post a new version?
>>>
>>> Andrew has taken the patchset to -mm tree.
>>>
>>> Andrew, which way do you prefer? I send a v3 patch for hung-task or you
>>> pickup the fixup patch and squash it into the orginal 0002 patch?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I make a squshed version v3 patch below.
>>
>> I prefer little fixup patches, generally. So people can see what
>> changed and don't feel they should re-review everything.
>>
>> I queued the below, thanks.
>>
>> From: Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Subject: hung_task-add-hung_task_sys_info-sysctl-to-dump-sys-info-on-task-hung-fix
>> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2025 19:30:36 +0800
>>
>> maintain consistecy established behavior, per Lance and Petr
>>
>> Link: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/aRncJo1mA5Zk77Hr@U-2FWC9VHC-2323.local
>> Suggested-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
>> Cc: Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>
> Thanks a lot for catching and fixing the regression caused
> by this patchset. The patch looks good.
>
> See a comment below.
>
>> --- a/kernel/hung_task.c~hung_task-add-hung_task_sys_info-sysctl-to-dump-sys-info-on-task-hung-fix
>> +++ a/kernel/hung_task.c
>> @@ -223,8 +223,11 @@ static inline void debug_show_blocker(st
>> }
>> #endif
>>
>> -static void check_hung_task(struct task_struct *t, unsigned long timeout)
>> +static void check_hung_task(struct task_struct *t, unsigned long timeout,
>> + unsigned long prev_detect_count)
>> {
>> + unsigned long total_hung_task;
>> +
>> if (!task_is_hung(t, timeout))
>> return;
>>
>> @@ -234,13 +237,19 @@ static void check_hung_task(struct task_
>> */
>> sysctl_hung_task_detect_count++;
>>
>> + total_hung_task = sysctl_hung_task_detect_count - prev_detect_count;
>> trace_sched_process_hang(t);
>>
>> + if (sysctl_hung_task_panic && total_hung_task >= sysctl_hung_task_panic) {
>> + console_verbose();
>> + hung_task_call_panic = true;
>> + }
>> +
>> /*
>> * Ok, the task did not get scheduled for more than 2 minutes,
>> * complain:
>> */
>> - if (sysctl_hung_task_warnings) {
>> + if (sysctl_hung_task_warnings || hung_task_call_panic) {
>> if (sysctl_hung_task_warnings > 0)
>> sysctl_hung_task_warnings--;
>> pr_err("INFO: task %s:%d blocked for more than %ld seconds.\n",
>
> This restores the behavior after the commit 9544f9e6947f6508
> ("hung_task: panic when there are more than N hung tasks at
> the same time"). It is better than nothing.
>
> Well, the behavior is still not ideal. It would be better when
> we printed backtraces from _all_ "hung" tasks before panicking.
> But it prints the backtraces only when sysctl_hung_task_panic
> limit is reached.
>
> I mean, for example, let's have:
>
> + sysctl_hung_task_warnings = 2;
> + sysctl_hung_task_panic = 5;
> + and detect 6 hung tasks.
>
> The code will report 1st and 2nd hung tasks. It will skip 3rd and 4th
> because sysctl_hung_task_warnings reached 0. It will report 5th and
> 6th tasks because (total_hung_task >= 5).
>
> It is better than nothing. But it might be confusing.
Right, I can see how it might be confusing.
IMHO, sysctl_hung_task_warnings is a user-configured limit on verbosity.
It makes sense that reports are suppressed after the limit is exhausted,
except when the sysctl_hung_task_panic threshold is reached ;)
>
> I am not sure how to fix it. A minimalist solution would be to print
> a warning. Something like:
>
> if (sysctl_hung_task_panic > 1 &&
> (total_hung_task == sysctl_hung_task_panic) &&
> !sysctl_hung_task_warnings) {
> pr_err("INFO: %d blocked tasks might have been skipped because reached hung_task_warnings limit\n",
> sysctl_hung_task_panic - 1);
>
> Or we could print the "total_hung_task" counter somewhere, for
> example,
>
> pr_err("INFO[%lu]: task %s:%d blocked for more than %ld seconds.\n",
> total_hung_task, ...
>
> Or we could restart the for_each_process_thread() cycle and make sure
> that all hung tasks will get reported.
>
> Or we could ignore it until anyone complains.
It looks like we already inform the user when that happens. When
sysctl_hung_task_warnings is finally decremented to zero, the code prints:
```
if (!sysctl_hung_task_warnings)
pr_info("Future hung task reports are suppressed, see sysctl
kernel.hung_task_warnings\n");
```
Given that this explicit warning is already in place, perhaps the current
behavior is sufficient and clear enough?
Thanks,
Lance
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-18 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-13 11:10 [PATCH v2 0/4] Enable hung_task and lockup cases to dump system info on demand Feng Tang
2025-11-13 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] docs: panic: correct some sys_ifo names in sysctl doc Feng Tang
2025-11-13 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] hung_task: Add hung_task_sys_info sysctl to dump sys info on task-hung Feng Tang
2025-11-14 15:36 ` Petr Mladek
2025-11-16 7:16 ` Feng Tang
2025-11-16 7:58 ` Lance Yang
2025-11-16 9:11 ` Feng Tang
2025-11-16 13:22 ` Lance Yang
2025-11-16 14:13 ` Feng Tang
2025-11-17 17:53 ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-18 2:26 ` Feng Tang
2025-11-18 6:06 ` Lance Yang
2025-11-18 15:20 ` Petr Mladek
2025-11-18 17:57 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-11-19 12:31 ` Petr Mladek
2025-11-13 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] watchdog: add sys_info sysctls to dump sys info on system lockup Feng Tang
2025-11-14 15:44 ` Petr Mladek
2025-11-13 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] sys_info: add a default kernel sys_info mask Feng Tang
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