From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@laptop.org, dmk@flex.com,
wmb@firmworks.com, hch@infradead.org, jg@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:26:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e16f612db37ceee06392a0d7656d4242@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070101.193144.74746471.davem@davemloft.net>
>> There is one big problem: text representation is useless
>> (to scripts etc.) unless it can be transformed back to binary;
>> i.e., it has to be possible to reliably detect _how_ some
>> property is represented into text, something that cannot be
>> done with how openpromfs handles it.
>
> Text is text is text for many propertiers,
Sure some properties contain (or _should_ contain!) just
one simple text string. You can simply "cat" those when
they are binary in the filesystem too FWIW.
> in particular
> the ones you actually end up wanting to modify.
But that is just one simple use of the filesystem. One that
doesn't work at all on PowerPC btw -- at kernel run time,
we don't have access to OF at all anymore.
> In order for a problem to exist, you have to show counter
> examples where the problem triggers and something fails.
>
> What in userspace wants to modify a OFW property, which
> is not text?
I never was talking about modifying. Most things that
most users want to modify aren't normal OF properties
anyway, but configuration variables. In some/many OF
implementations updating those via the device tree doesn't
work.
> In my experience all such cases are limited to ASCII text
> valued properties, such as device aliases, environment
> variables, and things like nvramrc.
If the text representation in the file system was unambiguous,
it wouldn't be useless for scripts anymore, merely very
inconvenient.
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-02 11:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-31 1:38 [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 5:19 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 9:36 ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 9:52 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 10:11 ` David Kahn
2006-12-31 10:49 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 11:47 ` Rene Rebe
2006-12-31 11:53 ` David Kahn
2007-01-01 3:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 18:43 ` Richard Smith
2006-12-31 15:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-31 20:46 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 3:37 ` David Kahn
2007-01-01 8:54 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 4:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 3:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 8:57 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 17:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 23:08 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 23:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:31 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:26 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-01-02 1:40 ` David Kahn
2007-01-02 3:36 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 18:10 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-01 19:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 4:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 4:30 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 4:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 5:01 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 5:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 5:44 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 12:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 11:03 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 22:10 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:05 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 0:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:34 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 15:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 2:15 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 3:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 3:49 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:45 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-31 13:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-12-31 18:55 ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 14:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-31 20:45 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 21:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 3:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 11:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 13:22 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-02 20:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 20:11 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-02 20:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 0:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 0:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 1:14 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:35 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:07 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 0:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 1:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-03 4:38 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 5:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 15:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 15:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:34 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 21:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:59 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 3:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 4:21 ` Segher Boessenkool
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-11 17:39 ron minnich
2007-01-11 17:53 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-11 17:55 ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 18:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 18:20 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-11 18:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 19:12 ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 19:11 ` ron minnich
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