From: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Drew Fustini <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v20 00/18] Add support for Sub-NUMA cluster (SNC) systems
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 11:27:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e17d3a79-9c07-44cd-b0ea-2d0545680342@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc52a051-4296-48ac-9a83-29139855553f@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
On 6/13/24 15:32, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 6/13/24 12:17 PM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> I may be little bit out of sync here. Also, sorry to come back late in the
>> series.
>>
>> Looking at the series again, I see this approach adds lots of code.
>> Look at this structure.
>>
>>
>> @@ -187,10 +196,12 @@ struct rdt_resource {
>> bool alloc_capable;
>> bool mon_capable;
>> int num_rmid;
>> - enum resctrl_scope scope;
>> + enum resctrl_scope ctrl_scope;
>> + enum resctrl_scope mon_scope;
>> struct resctrl_cache cache;
>> struct resctrl_membw membw;
>> - struct list_head domains;
>> + struct list_head ctrl_domains;
>> + struct list_head mon_domains;
>> char *name;
>> int data_width;
>> u32 default_ctrl;
>>
>> There are two scope fields.
>> There are two domains fields.
>>
>> These are very confusing and very hard to maintain. Also, I am not sure if
>> these fields are useful for anything other than SNC feature. This approach
>> adds quite a bit of code for no specific advantage.
>>
>> Why don't we just split the RDT_RESOURCE_L3 resource
>> into separate resources, one for control, one for monitoring.
>> We already have "control" only resources (MBA, SMBA, L2). Lets create new
>> "monitor" only resource. I feel it will be much cleaner approach.
>>
>> Tony has already tried that approach and showed that it is much simpler.
>>
>> v15-RFC :
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240130222034.37181-1-tony.luck@intel.com/
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> Some highlights of my thoughts in response to that series, but the whole
> thread
> may be of interest to you:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/78c88c6d-2e8d-42d1-a6f2-1c5ac38fb258@intel.com/
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/59944211-d34a-4ba3-a1de-095822c0b3f0@intel.com/
>
Went through the thread, in summary:
The main concerns are related to duplication of code and data structures.
The solutions are
a) Split the domains.
This is what this series is doing now. This creates members like
ctrl_scope, mon_scope, ctrl_domains etc.. These fields are added to all
the resources (MBA, SMBA and L2). Then there is additional domain header.
b) Split the resource.
Split RDT_RESOURCE_L3 into two, one for "monitor" and one for "control".
There will be one domain structure for "monitor" and one for "control"
Both these approaches have code and data duplication. So, there is no
difference that way.
But complexity wise, approach (a) adds quite bit of complexity. Doesn't it?
For me, solution (b) looks simple and easy. Eventually, we may have to
restructure these data structures anyways. I feel it is the right direction.
--
Thanks
Babu Moger
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-10 18:35 [PATCH v20 00/18] Add support for Sub-NUMA cluster (SNC) systems Tony Luck
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 01/18] x86/resctrl: Prepare for new domain scope Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 02/18] x86/resctrl: Prepare to split rdt_domain structure Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 03/18] x86/resctrl: Prepare for different scope for control/monitor operations Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 04/18] x86/resctrl: Split the rdt_domain and rdt_hw_domain structures Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:14 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 05/18] x86/resctrl: Add node-scope to the options for feature scope Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 06/18] x86/resctrl: Introduce snc_nodes_per_l3_cache Tony Luck
2024-06-17 22:36 ` Moger, Babu
2024-06-18 22:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-19 14:43 ` Moger, Babu
2024-06-20 21:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 07/18] x86/resctrl: Block use of mba_MBps mount option on Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) systems Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-20 22:07 ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-20 22:12 ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-21 1:56 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-21 15:24 ` Tony Luck
2024-06-21 17:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 08/18] x86/resctrl: Prepare for new Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) monitor files Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 09/18] x86/resctrl: Add a new field to struct rmid_read for summation of domains Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-20 22:42 ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-21 1:59 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-21 16:07 ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-21 17:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 10/18] x86/resctrl: Refactor mkdir_mondata_subdir() with a helper function Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 11/18] x86/resctrl: Allocate a new field in union mon_data_bits Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:28 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 12/18] x86/resctrl: Create Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) monitor files Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 13/18] x86/resctrl: Handle removing directories in Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) mode Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 14/18] x86/resctrl: Fill out rmid_read structure for smp_call*() to read a counter Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 15/18] x86/resctrl: Make __mon_event_count() handle sum domains Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 16/18] x86/resctrl: Enable RMID shared RMID mode on Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) systems Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 17/18] x86/resctrl: Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) detection Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-21 17:05 ` Markus Elfring
2024-06-21 17:14 ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-10 18:35 ` [PATCH v20 18/18] x86/resctrl: Update documentation with Sub-NUMA cluster changes Tony Luck
2024-06-20 21:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-13 19:17 ` [PATCH v20 00/18] Add support for Sub-NUMA cluster (SNC) systems Moger, Babu
2024-06-13 20:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-13 21:02 ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-14 16:27 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2024-06-14 16:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-14 21:29 ` Moger, Babu
2024-06-14 21:40 ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-14 22:31 ` Moger, Babu
2024-06-14 23:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-17 14:06 ` Moger, Babu
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