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From: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
To: Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	kernel <kernel@dh-electronics.com>,
	"linux-leds@vger.kernel.org" <linux-leds@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:36:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6b166b399314a91bc97db591c8ec5a7@dh-electronics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38c9aae4-0cae-a5a6-7c76-f23edf259dab@gmail.com>

From: Jacek Anaszewski [mailto:jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 7:44 PM
> 
> Hi all,
>

Hi all,

> On 12/2/22 00:41, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 11/30/22 20:19, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>>> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
>>>>>> in the description.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
>>>>> good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach
>>>> is the
>>>> correct one for new DTs ?
>>>>
>>>> So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
>>>> should replace it with "function" and "color".
>>>
>>> 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is
>>> a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for
>>> 'linux,default-trigger'.
>>
>> Isn't this 'function' more of a standardized replacement for 'label' ?
> 
> Yes it is. Introduction of function and color properties aimed at
> standardizing LED naming. Before there was only 'label' used for that,
> with DT node name as fallback if 'label' property was not provided.
> With introduction of 'function' and 'color' label was deprecated in
> the sense that if the former two are present, they are used for
> composing the LED name.
> 
> In LED documentation [0] people are encouraged to use definitions from
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h to keep LED naming uniform.
> It allows to avoid duplicates like "wlan" and "wifi".
> 
>> $ git grep LED_FUNCTION_ include/
>> ...
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER5 "player-5"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ACTIVITY "activity"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ALARM "alarm"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BACKLIGHT
>> "backlight"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BLUETOOTH
>> "bluetooth"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BOOT "boot"
>> ...
>>
>> Seems to me that ^ is closer to a "standardized" form of 'label' .
>>
>> The LED subsystem does not infer any behavior of those LEDs based on
>> their 'function' property as far as I can tell, at least not in the way
>> 'linux,default-trigger' behaves.
>>
>>> 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label'
>>> can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.
>>
>> This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being
>> un-deprecated.
> 
> It shouldn't be. It seems to be Pavel's ad-hoc decision.

Is there a majority agreement that the "label" property remains deprecated?
If so, I would say we can mark the label as deprecated.

On the other hand, the new generated standardized sysfs name does not seem
to provide a full replacement for the "label" property.
What is still missing?
How can the current state be extended to find more acceptance?

[...]

Regards
Christoph

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-22  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-22 11:11 [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Christoph Niedermaier
2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog Christoph Niedermaier
2022-11-29 12:33   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-30 10:10     ` Lee Jones
2022-11-30 10:13       ` kernel
2022-11-30 10:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-30 10:20         ` Lee Jones
2022-11-30 10:18     ` Christoph Niedermaier
2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing Christoph Niedermaier
2022-11-29 12:06   ` Ulf Hansson
2022-11-29 12:33     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-29 12:35   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-29 15:30     ` Ulf Hansson
2022-11-29 15:37       ` Marek Vasut
2022-11-29 15:59       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-22 12:23 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Pavel Machek
2022-11-25 21:26   ` Marek Vasut
2022-11-29  9:03     ` Christoph Niedermaier
2022-11-30 19:19     ` Rob Herring
2022-11-30 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-01 21:47         ` Rob Herring
2022-12-02  9:25           ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-01 23:44         ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-01 23:41       ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-05 18:44         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2022-12-22  9:36           ` Christoph Niedermaier [this message]
2022-12-22 13:50             ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-22 14:01               ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-22 14:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-22 15:21                   ` Marek Vasut

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