From: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
"Heiko Carstens" <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] tty: serial: handle HAS_IOPORT dependencies
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2024 12:09:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e916ff3347cef88981d8e519fe1bcedfabfbea24.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2410022305040.45128@angie.orcam.me.uk>
On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 23:59 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> > I agree that this shouldn't be hard to finish. The IS_ENABLED()
> > check is not that easy to do as I think we need to keep calling
> > inb()/outb() outside of an #ifdef a compile-time error.
>
> Can we just provide dummy prototypes with `__attribute__((error("...")))'
> instead? This will surely prevent us from having to bend backwards so as
> to make sure the compiler won't see any spurious references to these
> inexistent functions or macros. We already have a `__compiletime_error()'
> macro for this purpose even.
This is already done in the final patch of my series when disabling
inb()/outb() and friends.
>
> > Part of the problem that Niklas is trying to solve with the
> > CONFIG_HAS_IOPORT annotations is to prevent an invalid inb()/outb()
> > from turning into a NULL pointer dereference as it currently does
> > on architectures that have no way to support PIO but get the
> > default implementation from asm-generic/io.h.
>
> It can be worse than that. Part of my confusion with the defxx driver
> trying to do port I/O with my POWER9 system came from the mapping actually
> resulting in non-NULL invalid pointers, dereferencing which caused a flood
> of obscure messages produced to the system console by the system firmware:
>
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> [...]
>
> from which it was all but obvious that they were caused by an attempt to
> use PCI port I/O with a system lacking support for it.
>
> > It's not clear if having a silently non-working driver or one
> > that crashes makes it easier to debug for users. Having a clear
> > warning message in the PCI probe code is probably the best
> > we can hope for.
>
> I agree. Enthusiastically.
I think there was also a bit of a misunderstanding. My argument that
this would be very ugly in the general case was really meant as general
case outside of drivers like 8250 that deals with both I/O port and
MMIO i.e. we can't warn/error when !HAS_IOPORT deactivates a whole
driver because seeing an I/O port BAR in common PCI code doesn't mean
that it is required for use of the device.
I'm working on a new proposal for 8250 now. Basically I think we can
put the warning/error in serial8250_pci_setup_port(). And then for
those 8250_pci.c "sub drivers" that require I/O ports instead of just
ifdeffing out their setup/init/exit we can define anything but setup to
NULL and setup to pci_default_setup() such that the latter will find
the I/O port BAR via FL_GET_BASE() and subsequently cause the error
print in serial8250_pci_setup_port(). It's admittedly a bit odd but it
also keeps the #ifdefs to just around the code that wouldn't compile.
One thing I'm not happy with yet is the handling around
is_upf_fourport(port) in 8250_pci.c. With !HAS_IOPORT this is defined
as false. With that it makes sure that inb_p()/outb_p() aren't called
but I think this only works because the compiler usually drops the dead
if clause. I think there were previous discussions around this but I
think just like IS_ENABLED() checks this isn't quite correct.
Thanks,
Niklas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-04 10:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-05 15:29 [PATCH 0/1] tty: Handle HAS_IOPORT dependencies Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-05 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/1] tty: serial: handle " Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-08 9:54 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-04-08 10:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-08 10:25 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-01 9:04 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-08 15:35 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-08 15:41 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-04-08 15:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-05-23 2:11 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-01 11:21 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-01 15:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-01 16:41 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-02 12:44 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-02 18:12 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-02 22:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-02 22:59 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-04 6:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-04 16:24 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-04 16:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-04 10:09 ` Niklas Schnelle [this message]
2024-10-04 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-04 16:03 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-04 14:44 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-04 16:34 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-11-22 15:18 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 15:35 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-11-22 16:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-22 17:22 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 19:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-22 20:44 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 22:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-23 2:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 7:55 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25 9:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 10:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25 11:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 11:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25 13:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 15:42 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25 16:54 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-11-25 17:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 18:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-12-04 18:51 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 15:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 21:09 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-12-04 22:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 22:44 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-12-05 7:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05 14:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-12-06 15:44 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-06 16:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-16 12:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-22 17:07 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 23:27 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-11-22 23:34 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-11-23 9:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-05 22:33 ` [PATCH 0/1] tty: Handle " Andy Shevchenko
2024-04-06 8:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
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