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From: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
	"Heiko Carstens" <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] tty: serial: handle HAS_IOPORT dependencies
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2024 12:09:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e916ff3347cef88981d8e519fe1bcedfabfbea24.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2410022305040.45128@angie.orcam.me.uk>

On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 23:59 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> > I agree that this shouldn't be hard to finish. The IS_ENABLED()
> > check is not that easy to do as I think we need to keep calling
> > inb()/outb() outside of an #ifdef a compile-time error.
> 
>  Can we just provide dummy prototypes with `__attribute__((error("...")))' 
> instead?  This will surely prevent us from having to bend backwards so as 
> to make sure the compiler won't see any spurious references to these 
> inexistent functions or macros.  We already have a `__compiletime_error()' 
> macro for this purpose even.

This is already done in the final patch of my series when disabling
inb()/outb() and friends.


> 
> > Part of the problem that Niklas is trying to solve with the
> > CONFIG_HAS_IOPORT annotations is to prevent an invalid inb()/outb()
> > from turning into a NULL pointer dereference as it currently does
> > on architectures that have no way to support PIO but get the
> > default implementation from asm-generic/io.h.
> 
>  It can be worse than that.  Part of my confusion with the defxx driver 
> trying to do port I/O with my POWER9 system came from the mapping actually 
> resulting in non-NULL invalid pointers, dereferencing which caused a flood 
> of obscure messages produced to the system console by the system firmware:
> 
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> LPC[000]: Got SYNC no-response error. Error address reg: 0xd0010014
> IPMI: dropping non severe PEL event
> [...]
> 
> from which it was all but obvious that they were caused by an attempt to 
> use PCI port I/O with a system lacking support for it.
> 
> > It's not clear if having a silently non-working driver or one
> > that crashes makes it easier to debug for users. Having a clear
> > warning message in the PCI probe code is probably the best
> > we can hope for.
> 
>  I agree.  Enthusiastically.

I think there was also a bit of a misunderstanding. My argument that
this would be very ugly in the general case was really meant as general
case outside of drivers like 8250 that deals with both I/O port and
MMIO i.e. we can't warn/error when !HAS_IOPORT deactivates a whole
driver because seeing an I/O port BAR in common PCI code doesn't mean
that it is required for use of the device.

I'm working on a new proposal for 8250 now. Basically I think we can
put the warning/error in serial8250_pci_setup_port(). And then for
those 8250_pci.c "sub drivers" that require I/O ports instead of just
ifdeffing out their setup/init/exit we can define anything but setup to
NULL and setup to pci_default_setup() such that the latter will find
the I/O port BAR via FL_GET_BASE() and subsequently cause the error
print in serial8250_pci_setup_port(). It's admittedly a bit odd but it
also keeps the #ifdefs to just around the code that wouldn't compile.

One thing I'm not happy with yet is the handling around
is_upf_fourport(port) in 8250_pci.c. With !HAS_IOPORT this is defined
as false. With that it makes sure that inb_p()/outb_p() aren't called
but I think this only works because the compiler usually drops the dead
if clause. I think there were previous discussions around this but I
think just like IS_ENABLED() checks this isn't quite correct.

Thanks,
Niklas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-04 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-05 15:29 [PATCH 0/1] tty: Handle HAS_IOPORT dependencies Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-05 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/1] tty: serial: handle " Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-08  9:54   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-04-08 10:17     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-08 10:25       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-01  9:04       ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-08 15:35     ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-04-08 15:41       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-04-08 15:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-05-23  2:11   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-01 11:21     ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-01 15:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-01 16:41       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-02 12:44         ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-02 18:12           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-02 22:00             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-02 22:59               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-04  6:53                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-04 16:24                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-10-04 16:57                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-04 10:09                 ` Niklas Schnelle [this message]
2024-10-04 12:48                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-10-04 16:03                     ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-04 14:44                   ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-10-04 16:34                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-11-22 15:18   ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 15:35     ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-11-22 16:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-22 17:22         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 19:24           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-22 20:44             ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 22:51               ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-23  2:14                 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25  7:55             ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25  9:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 10:33                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25 11:06                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 11:26                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25 13:50                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 15:42                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-25 16:54                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-11-25 17:54                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-25 18:42                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-12-04 18:51                             ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 15:59                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 21:09                       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-12-04 22:17                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 22:44                           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-12-05  7:08                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05 14:31                               ` Guenter Roeck
2024-12-06 15:44                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-06 16:02                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-16 12:26                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-11-22 17:07       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-22 23:27         ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-11-22 23:34         ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-11-23  9:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-05 22:33 ` [PATCH 0/1] tty: Handle " Andy Shevchenko
2024-04-06  8:06   ` Arnd Bergmann

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