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smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=ciZxoSwb; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="ciZxoSwb" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB8A01F000E9; Fri, 3 Jul 2026 18:22:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1783102948; bh=WmMmpkORNs97pYFUZCo2EC47DaLH9PCLV52WM66pSIg=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=ciZxoSwbYsNA/Z6KD7nJ/utifoY/pT0yYRUW6+2H7B9Y2fOtUJA3HYH6E4XhESeXp otH4QDVvMYaH0ww5rvcPoekmzyuRC/Vt1oIIif3BwQwo9MQ5ROzX7zoQTD1g3LZ1/y 4NcogTpeyRAoSI/FoPBmP0NZQ6e9NLjrapOn4zdSkPMm/RWJ/ECvjK/CznQ183wefV SuY+PrshOGdkOl65st2KNkxD4rE6DXv0JUGrTwDQaG1PWJyNrHLb6lhyuHyY6Zxh5w gBHeNemNyCnyd6i1ufTEduUwfbqCm75jQ7RgelFr1wJQJZ/dtywtxK2q2PD1LRQqbV fXu3vs2frtmQg== Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2026 20:22:20 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution To: Laurent Pinchart , Lorenzo Stoakes Cc: Boris Burkov , Jeff Layton , Greg KH , Linus Torvalds , Jonathan Corbet , Justin Stitt , Carlos Maiolino , Jakub Kicinski , Jori Koolstra , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Brian Foster , Christoph Hellwig , David Disseldorp , Mark Brown , Jani Nikula , Jens Axboe , Vlastimil Babka , "Christian Brauner (Amutable)" , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org References: <20260702-aidoc-v1-1-735572dfb995@kernel.org> <2026070224-unholy-commode-cf45@gregkh> <2114bb79bb5b6e5584a8236de3590e2f4bf0899f.camel@kernel.org> <20260702161330.GH3534761@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <2026070227-payroll-eradicate-8f66@gregkh> <16c507cea8f2873766e1de586d9a0d73234a3038.camel@kernel.org> <20260702211740.GA639365@zen.localdomain> <3f447113-4407-471f-878f-e6d6edafee71@kernel.org> <20260703163251.GB3734786@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=david@kernel.org; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/3/26 18:32, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 02:12:40PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 09:05:58AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: >> >> I personally think 1-2 are the only relevant cases. >> >>> >>> Yes, I raised something similar as reply to Christian's RFC [1], where I said >>> that for me the information *how* it was used is much more important: >>> >>> " >>> Assisted-by: LLM # translate commit message >>> Assisted-by: LLM # generate some test cases >>> Assisted-by: LLM # cleanup logic >>> Assisted-by: LLM # everything and I have no clue what any in here does >>> " >> >> Yup, and we don't need complicated rules for that just 'document what you used >> it for and give a sense of how much'. >> >> It's fuzzy but useful. >> >>> >>> That tag is it stands is pretty useless, really. >> >> Not to go over it all again but I disagree, even as it stands, it allows us to >> engage in conversation about the LLM usage if admitted, and to point those who >> are misbehaving at the rules if not. >> >> And it is a clear way to get the boolean 'is this person saying they used an >> LLM'. >> >> But I agree with you it'd be MUCH more useful if we did the above. >> >> I wonder if we could get consensus on adding a section to the doc saying that >> it'd be _useful_ to add a comment explaining _what_ you did, and explaining the >> concept with some examples? > > I'd support a patch that replaces > > Assisted-by: Claude:claude-3-opus coccinelle sparse > > with > > Assisted-by: LLM # generate some test cases > > and rewrites the Attribution section of > Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst accordingly. > > I think most people in this mail thread have expressed that how > generative AI was used is the most important information, and several > people (including myself) have expressed a desire to stop the free > advertising. Unless I missed something, I don't think anyone has > expressed an interest in keeping the agent name and model. Yes, that's something I would enjoy seeing. Who reading along has a problem with that? (assuming that the tag must stay) -- Cheers, David