From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>, Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
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Nikola Djukic <ndjukic@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 5/8] rust: clist: Add support to interface with C linked lists
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2026 10:27:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eadfa4662f403fa01f19c1c17a435c1a@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DGIWDQTR76Y5.34L9IHKU2SEKI@kernel.org>
On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 12:21:56PM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Wed Feb 18, 2026 at 9:55 PM CET, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > +RUST TO C LIST INTERFACES
>
> Maybe this should just be "RUST [FFI]" instead (in case Alex and you want to
> sign up for looking after FFI helper infrastructure in general)?
Good idea, done.
> > +F: rust/kernel/ffi/clist.rs
>
> <snip>
>
> > +//! This module provides Rust abstractions for iterating over C `list_head`-based
> > +//! linked lists. It is intended for FFI use-cases where a C subsystem manages a
> > +//! circular linked list that Rust code needs to read. This is generally required
> > +//! only for special cases and should be avoided by drivers.
>
> Maybe generalize the statement a bit and say that this should only be used for
> cases where C and Rust code share direct access to the same linked list through
> an FFI interface.
>
> Additionally, add a separate note that this *must not* be used by Rust
> components that just aim for a linked list primitive and instead refer to the
> Rust linked list implementation with an intra-doc link.
Done. Updated the module doc to say "It should only be used for cases
where C and Rust code share direct access to the same linked list
through an FFI interface" and added a separate note:
Note: This *must not* be used by Rust components that just need a
linked list primitive. Use [`kernel::list::List`] instead.
> > +//! types::Opaque, //
>
> Examples don't necessarily need '//' at the end, as they are not automatically
> formatted anyways.
Removed from the example. Non-example imports keep the '//' as a
rustfmt guard.
> > +//! # // SAFETY: pointers are to allocated test objects with a list_head field.
> > +//! # unsafe {
>
> I understand that this is just setup code for a doc-test, but I still think we
> should hold it to the same standards, i.e. let's separate the different unsafe
> calls into their own unsafe blocks and add proper safety comments.
Done. Split into three separate unsafe blocks with individual SAFETY
comments for the value write, INIT_LIST_HEAD, and list_add_tail calls.
> > + PinInit //
>
> Should be 'PinInit, //'.
Fixed.
> > +/// - [`CListHead`] represents an allocated and valid `list_head` structure.
>
> What does "allocated" mean in this context? (Dynamic allocations, stack, .data
> section of the binary, any of those?)
>
> In case of the latter, I'd just remove "allocated".
Removed "allocated". The invariant now reads:
The underlying `list_head` has been initialized (e.g. via
`INIT_LIST_HEAD()`) and its `next`/`prev` pointers are valid and
non-NULL.
> > + /// - `ptr` must be a valid pointer to an allocated and initialized `list_head` structure.
>
> Same here, what exactly is meant by "allocated"?
Removed "allocated" from from_raw() safety docs as well. Updated to:
`ptr` must be a valid pointer to an initialized `list_head` (e.g.
via `INIT_LIST_HEAD()`), with valid non-NULL `next`/`prev` pointers.
> > + /// - The list and all linked `list_head` nodes must not be modified by non-Rust code
> > + /// for the lifetime `'a`.
>
> This is a bit vague I think, concurrent modifications of (other) Rust code are
> not OK either.
Fixed. Changed to "must not be concurrently modified for the lifetime
`'a`" which covers both Rust and C code.
> > + // SAFETY:
> > + // - `self.as_raw()` is valid per type invariants.
> > + // - The `next` pointer is guaranteed to be non-NULL.
>
> I'm not sure whether "valid" in the type invariant implies that the struct
> list_head is initialized. From a language point of view it is also valid if the
> pointers are NULL.
>
> So, I think the invariant (and the safety requirements of from_raw()) have to
> ensure that the struct list_head is initialized in the sense of
> INIT_LIST_HEAD().
Agreed. The invariant and from_raw() safety requirements now explicitly
require INIT_LIST_HEAD() initialization with valid non-NULL next/prev
pointers. The next() SAFETY comment now reads:
- `self.as_raw()` is valid and initialized per type invariants.
- The `next` pointer is valid and non-NULL per type invariants
(initialized via `INIT_LIST_HEAD()` or equivalent).
> > +/// - The [`CListHead`] is an allocated and valid sentinel C `list_head` structure.
> > +/// - `OFFSET` is the byte offset of the `list_head` field within the struct that `T` wraps.
> > +/// - All the list's `list_head` nodes are allocated and have valid next/prev pointers.
>
> Comments from CListHead also apply here.
Updated CList invariants and from_raw() safety docs to match the
CListHead pattern (removed "allocated", added INIT_LIST_HEAD, non-NULL
pointers, "concurrently modified").
> > +/// This is an unsafe macro. The caller must ensure:
>
> Given that, we should probably use the same (or a similar) trick as in [1].
>
> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/src/kernel/device.rs.html#665-688
Done. Applied the device.rs pattern - the macro now requires
`clist_create!(unsafe { ... })` syntax, which forces callers to
acknowledge the safety requirements at the call site. The macro
internally wraps the `CList::from_raw` call in an unsafe block.
Thanks for the review!
Joel
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2026-02-18 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] gpu: Move DRM buddy allocator one level up (part two) Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 3:18 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-19 15:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-18 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] gpu: Fix uninitialized buddy for built-in drivers Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 10:09 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-19 15:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 16:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-18 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] rust: ffi: Convert pub use to pub mod and create ffi module Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 3:18 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-18 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] rust: clist: Add support to interface with C linked lists Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 4:26 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-19 15:27 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 9:58 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-19 15:28 ` Joel Fernandes
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2026-02-19 14:37 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-19 15:27 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2026-02-19 15:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 16:24 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-19 18:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 18:38 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-19 19:28 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 22:55 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-20 4:00 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-20 1:56 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-20 1:09 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-20 1:19 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-20 16:48 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-23 0:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-24 16:15 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-25 19:48 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-25 20:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-26 0:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-20 8:16 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-02-23 1:13 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-24 2:08 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-02-24 7:28 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-24 16:00 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-24 16:11 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-21 8:59 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-23 0:41 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-23 9:38 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-24 0:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-18 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] rust: gpu: Add GPU buddy allocator bindings Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 5:13 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-19 8:54 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-19 15:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-01 13:23 ` Gary Guo
2026-03-01 17:53 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-19 15:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-20 1:56 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-23 1:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 13:18 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-19 15:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-20 8:22 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-02-20 14:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-20 15:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-20 15:53 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-20 21:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-20 23:43 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-23 0:34 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-18 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] nova-core: mm: Select GPU_BUDDY for VRAM allocation Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 0:44 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-19 1:14 ` John Hubbard
2026-02-19 15:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 2:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-19 15:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-18 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] nova-core: Kconfig: Sort select statements alphabetically Joel Fernandes
2026-02-18 20:59 ` [PATCH v10 0/8] Preparatory patches for nova-core memory management Joel Fernandes
2026-02-18 22:24 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-18 23:46 ` Joel Fernandes
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