From: Christian Schrefl <chrisi.schrefl@gmail.com>
To: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: add `assert_sync` function
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2025 01:38:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eba1cfdd-3756-4f8e-a2b2-e15b8b8b4a18@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DAGNOQOY3B3X.MQD616P04I3U@kernel.org>
On 08.06.25 12:31 AM, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Sat Jun 7, 2025 at 9:20 PM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>> On 07.06.25 8:11 PM, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>> On Sat Jun 7, 2025 at 5:54 PM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>>>> On 07.06.25 5:42 PM, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>>>> On Sat Jun 7, 2025 at 3:02 PM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>>>>>> - Add `assert_send` as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Should I already add this in V2 for this series?
>>>
>>> If you want to then sure, but we can also wait until we have a use-case.
>>> Also, let's finish the discussion about the macro idea below.
>>>
>>>>>> +/// assert_sync::<i32>(); // Succeeds because `i32` is Sync
>>>>>> +/// // assert_sync::<NotThreadSafe>(); // Fails because `NotThreadSafe` is not `Sync`.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you split this into two examples and mark the failing one with
>>>>> `compile_fail`?
>>>>
>>>> I've tried it with `compile_fail` and it didn't work, I think
>>>> that's not supported in (kernel) doc tests yet.
>>>
>>> Hmm, I thought that this worked... @Miguel any idea?
>>>
>>>>> We also could provide a macro similar to [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]: https://docs.rs/static_assertions/latest/static_assertions/
>>>>
>>>> You mean the `assert_impl_*!` macros?
>>>
>>> Yes, but the others might also be useful from time to time.
>>>>> That might make sense, with macros we would not need to write
>>>> a const block to ensure its not executed at runtime (although
>>>> it's probably optimized out anyways).
>>>
>>> It 100% will be optimized out.
>>>
>>>> It would also mean that we won't need a assert for every Trait, which
>>>> seems nice. So a macro sounds pretty good to me.
>>>
>>> It depends, the macro impl needs to define its own function, which might
>>> be inefficient if one uses it a lot. But there is no way to be generic
>>> over traits, so there is no other way.
>>>
>>> Let's see what the others think.
>>
>> The error messages in the macro are slightly worse:
>> error[E0277]: `*mut ()` cannot be shared between threads safely
>> --> rust/kernel/compile_assert.rs:40:18
>> |
>> 40 | assert_impl_all!(NotThreadSafe: Sync); // Fails because `NotThreadSafe` is not `Sync`
>> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ `*mut ()` cannot be shared between threads safely
>> |
>> = help: within `PhantomData<*mut ()>`, the trait `Sync` is not implemented for `*mut ()`, which is required by `PhantomData<*mut ()>: Sync`
>> note: required because it appears within the type `PhantomData<*mut ()>`
>> --> /home/chrisi/.rustup/toolchains/1.78-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/lib/rustlib/src/rust/library/core/src/marker.rs:740:12
>> |
>> 740 | pub struct PhantomData<T: ?Sized>;
>> | ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> note: required by a bound in `assert_impl`
>> --> rust/kernel/compile_assert.rs:34:48
>> |
>> 34 | const fn assert_impl<T: ?Sized $(+ $trait)+>() {}
>> | ^^^^^^ required by this bound in `assert_impl`
>> ...
>> 40 | assert_impl_all!(NotThreadSafe: Sync); // Fails because `NotThreadSafe` is not `Sync`
>> | ------------------------------------- in this macro invocation
>> = note: this error originates in the macro `assert_impl_all` (in Nightly builds, run with -Z macro-backtrace for more info)
>>
>> error: aborting due to 1 previous error
>>
>> compared to the function:
>>
>> error[E0277]: `*mut ()` cannot be shared between threads safely
>> --> rust/kernel/compile_assert.rs:28:31
>> |
>> 28 | const _: () = { assert_sync::<NotThreadSafe>() };
>> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ `*mut ()` cannot be shared between threads safely
>> |
>> = help: within `PhantomData<*mut ()>`, the trait `Sync` is not implemented for `*mut ()`, which is required by `PhantomData<*mut ()>: Sync`
>> note: required because it appears within the type `PhantomData<*mut ()>`
>> --> /home/chrisi/.rustup/toolchains/1.78-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/lib/rustlib/src/rust/library/core/src/marker.rs:740:12
>> |
>> 740 | pub struct PhantomData<T: ?Sized>;
>> | ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> note: required by a bound in `assert_sync`
>> --> rust/kernel/compile_assert.rs:26:38
>> |
>> 26 | pub const fn assert_sync<T: ?Sized + Sync>() {}
>> | ^^^^ required by this bound in `assert_sync`
>>
>> I guess I'll keep it as a function for now.
>
> Can we improve this by using a proc-macro instead and manipulating the
> span? I honestly don't think the error is too bad.
I don't see any point in paying the compile time hit for a proc macro.
The Error is not that bad, just a bit worse. I just don't really see the
point since this is only really need for marker traits and realistically
only for `Send` and `Sync`. Also the macro would create a function
definition for every invocation which would be a (very) small compile time
hit. So I think that we should just add the `Send` and `Sync` functions for
now and reconsider changing to a macro once/if more than these two is
actually needed.
Cheers
Christian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-07 23:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-07 13:02 [PATCH] rust: add `assert_sync` function Christian Schrefl
2025-06-07 15:42 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-07 15:54 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-07 17:30 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-07 18:11 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-07 19:20 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-07 22:31 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-07 23:38 ` Christian Schrefl [this message]
2025-06-08 7:41 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-07 17:29 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-07 20:19 ` Christian Schrefl
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