From: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
chrisl@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com, ljs@kernel.org,
ziy@nvidia.com
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Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] mm: PMD-level swap entries for anonymous THPs
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 10:39:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef54bbc4-ad15-4782-b4db-b21812708102@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74a5ab18-1486-4ad2-82fc-bea14b9122e0@kernel.org>
On 28/04/2026 20:54, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 4/27/26 12:01, Usama Arif wrote:
>> When reclaim swaps out a PMD-mapped anonymous THP today, the PMD is
>> split into 512 PTE-level swap entries via TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD before
>> unmap.
>>
>> This series introduces a PMD-level swap entry. The huge mapping is
>> preserved across the swap round-trip, and do_huge_pmd_swap_page()
>> resolves the entire 2 MB region in a single fault on swap-in,
>> no khugepaged involvement is needed. swap_map metadata is identical
>> either way (512 single-slot counts), so the PTE split buys nothing
>> on the swap side, it is purely a page-table representation change.
>>
>> This work was brought about after Hugh reported that one of the
>> major blockers for having lazy page table deposit is the lack of
>> PMD swap entries [1]. However, this series has benefits of its
>> own:
>> - The huge mapping is restored on swap-in. Today even when the
>> folio is still in swap cache as a single 2 MB folio, the swap-in
>> path installs 512 PTE mappings -- the PMD mapping is gone, the
>> freshly-materialised PTE table sticks around, and only
>> khugepaged can later collapse the range back into a THP.
>> do_huge_pmd_swap_page() reinstalls the PMD mapping directly in
>> one fault, no khugepaged involvement.
>
> Ack, that's nice.
>
>> - Memory saved per swapped-out THP *once lazy page table deposit is
>> merged* [2]. With lazy page table deposit [2], splitting a PMD into
>> 512 PTE swap entries forces allocation of a 4 KB PTE table page.
>> The new path leaves the pgtable hierarchy at PMD level and avoids
>> that allocation entirely.
>> This will save memory when swapping, which is likely when there is
>> memory pressure and exactly when allocations are most likely to
>> fail.
>
> Also ack.
>
>> - Walkers (zap, mprotect, smaps, pagemap, soft-dirty, uffd-wp)
>> visit one PMD entry instead of 512 PTEs, reducing traversal
>> time and lock-hold windows.
>
> Right.
>
>>
>> The swap entry value is identical to 512 PTE swap entries (same
>> type, same starting offset), so swap_map refcounting is unchanged.
>> Only the page-table representation differs; the swap slot allocator,
>> swap I/O, and swap cache are untouched. The new path falls back to
>> the existing PTE-split path whenever a PMD-order resource is
>> unavailable: zswap enabled, non-contiguous swap allocation
>> (THP_SWPOUT_FALLBACK), PMD-order folio allocation failure on swap-in
>> or fork, racing folio split, or rmap-driven split on a swapcache
>> folio. Walkers that previously assumed every non-present PMD encodes
>> a PFN (migration / device_private) are taught to recognise PMD swap
>> entries.
>
> All sounds nice. I'll get to review this soon. LSF/MM and travel will slow me a
> bit down in May :(
>
Thanks! Appreciate it!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-29 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-27 10:01 [PATCH 00/13] mm: PMD-level swap entries for anonymous THPs Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 01/13] mm: add softleaf_to_pmd() and convert existing callers Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: extract ensure_on_mmlist() helper Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 03/13] fs/proc: use softleaf_has_pfn() in pagemap PMD walker Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm/huge_memory: move softleaf_to_folio() inside migration branch Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: add PMD swap entry detection support Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: add PMD swap entry splitting support Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm: handle PMD swap entries in fork path Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 08/13] mm: swap in PMD swap entries as whole THPs during swapoff Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm: handle PMD swap entries in non-present PMD walkers Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:01 ` [PATCH 10/13] mm: handle PMD swap entries in UFFDIO_MOVE Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:02 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: handle PMD swap entry faults on swap-in Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:02 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: install PMD swap entries on swap-out Usama Arif
2026-04-27 10:02 ` [PATCH 13/13] selftests/mm: add PMD swap entry tests Usama Arif
2026-04-27 13:38 ` [PATCH 00/13] mm: PMD-level swap entries for anonymous THPs Usama Arif
2026-04-27 18:26 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-27 20:12 ` Usama Arif
2026-04-29 12:57 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-28 19:54 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29 9:39 ` Usama Arif [this message]
2026-04-29 12:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-29 10:44 ` Kairui Song
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