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From: daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:10:55 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eff0dv$poj$1@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1159396436.3086.51.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org

Arjan van de Ven  wrote:
>but really again you are degrading what noexec means.

As far as I can tell, noexec never really did mean anything particularly
coherent in the first place, so I find it hard to get upset about any
potential degradation.

(Second, as far as I can tell, it sounds like it may be more accurate
to characterize this as "revert some of it back to the way the semantics
were a year ago" than as "degrade noexec".  But even if it is a degradation,
I fail to see why that is a problem.)

Have you read my other email?  I notice that things got awfully quiet
on this thread once I started asking some pointed questions about what
exactly noexec is trying to solve and what exactly the threat model is.
I'm still waiting to hear any answers to those questions or any dispute
to my characterization of noexec.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-27 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-23 10:30 [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 15:36   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-23 15:47     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25  1:12       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-09-25  4:35         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:42   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 16:04     ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 16:38       ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 18:58       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24  6:55         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24  9:17           ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-24 10:00             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 13:53           ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24 14:54             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 15:48               ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 16:31                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 16:49                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 17:04                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 18:09                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:14                       ` David Wagner
2006-09-24 19:37                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-24 22:49                           ` David Wagner
2006-09-25 10:53                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-25 21:36                           ` David Wagner
2006-09-27 11:51                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-24 20:06                       ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-09-24 20:22                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 23:04                         ` David Wagner
2006-09-26 19:46                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 22:33                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-27 23:10                         ` David Wagner [this message]
2006-09-27 23:38                           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-09-29  1:14                             ` David Wagner
2006-09-28  4:52                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-30  9:42                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 15:01                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 17:15                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 17:23                               ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:06                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:19                                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 19:40                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:54                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-04 19:36                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04 21:31                                           ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  3:11                                     ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  3:51                                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04  4:21                                         ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  6:03                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-04 17:30                                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:23                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 18:40                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 18:42                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 19:07                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 21:00                                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-04 19:06                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 18:09                                           ` [patch] honour MNT_NOEXEC for access() Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 21:34                                             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-06 21:17                                               ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 11:19                                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 15:00                                                   ` David Wagner
2006-10-07 16:31                                                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 19:14                                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 19:36                                                       ` David Wagner
2006-10-08  8:32                                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08  9:11                                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:55                                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08 13:46                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-09  2:09                                                           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-10-09  4:40                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 13:18                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08  0:30                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08  9:10                                                   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08  9:56                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08 10:36                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:39                                                       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-08 13:22                                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 22:26                                             ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:30                                         ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04  3:20                                       ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  3:17                               ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 13:41                                 ` Jeff Dike
2006-10-04 18:02                               ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:48                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 19:16                     ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC MAP_PRIVATE mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 20:05                       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-28  4:33                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-28 16:42                           ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-29  1:41                             ` David Wagner
2006-09-29 20:50                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-29 16:54                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:59                   ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Alan Cox
2006-09-24 20:07                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24  0:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-25 17:17   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 17:43   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 20:12   ` David Wagner

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